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how long before Glock introduces...

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#1 ·
... a G43 sized .40cal?

or has the tide turned on the .40 cal popularity with so many agencies opting for the 9mm again instead.
 
#3 ·
Who knows? If corporate knows, they may be keeping it under their hat.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they really only considered offering a diminutive single stack in 9, if only because they made the G43 without the locking block pin support of their standard frames which share 9/.40/.357 calibers.

Granted, there is a small shift in attention among the LE market back to seeing more 9's being sold, and their commercial market has long favored 9's, so they may simply be running with their major market forces at this point.

Then again, they may be waiting to see how the market does with the 43, and be taking notes and considering any lessons that may be needed to think about designing a slightly stronger version chambered in .40.

I'm sure this will probably be among the many typical questions asked at my upcoming armorer recert.

I know the Shield is running strong & hot in all their calibers, having exceeded the 1.5 million units sold point in recent months.

Interestingly enough, I know a couple of Glock guys (firearms instructors) who have gone from a Shield 9 to the G43, and are now considering returning to the Shield 9.

The folks who favor the little single stacks can be a hard-to-please crowd, at times. ;
 
#32 ·
I have both a G43 and a Shield. Both have their place. The Shield is a bit stouter and the G43 is better for pocket carry. It just depends on what you're looking for.

I'd bet they'll stick with the 9mm for something that small. Even when I had a 27 it wasn't fun to shoot - I can't imagine a single stack 40 being any better.
 
#57 ·
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Screw the Shield . I like their concept and have owned 3 of them but I hate the fact that they cant be detailed stripped unless you remove the rear sight. And I hate the fact that the rear sight is used to contain the firing-pin and/or striker .
 
#5 ·
By all accounts, it seems the 43 is a purpose built 9mm. They'd likely have some beefing up to do to make one in .40. Even though the .40 is my favorite caliber, I much prefer to stay with 9mm in a 43 size pistol.

Only guns on the carry shelf at the moment is a 23 and 43.
 
#6 ·
I have a G22 and G27 so I like the .40 just fine, but I find that the price of ammo has gone up and up as popularity has waned. I have shot my .40s less and less over the last few years and my 9mms more and more.

I don't think that the .40 is going anywhere, but it isn't nearly as popular as it was, I'm not sure if a single stack .40 is going to come from Glock? It may. But if it does, I'll likely pass. If I could wave a wand and turn my 22 and 27 into a 19 and 26 I would...but that's just me.
 
#14 ·
1. You can. Get KKM 9mm conversion barrels and some Glock 9mm mags. You will have better handling 9mm guns than the 19 and 26 that are completely reliable.
2. To the OP I'd be shocked at seeing a single stack 40cal gun from Glock. The average person is buying the BS that 9mm is as good as 40cal. Even the FBI is feeding the current "fad" with misinformation. If Glock has any sense they will realize how far behind they are some of the other manafacturers in certain areas and carefully consider an new generation while firing those responsible for some of the choices made with the gen4.
 
#9 ·
The 9mm was long over due and was to released to compete with the other single stacked 9mm's that were already out. I doubt Glock is motivated enough to bring out a 40 single stack. The 27 is small enough IMO. The 36 and 43 has the single stack fans covered IMO.
 
#10 ·
As far as I know, Sig Sauer is the only show in town if you're looking for a single-stack .357. They have their P239 and now their 1911 model in the Sig-Federal cartridge...both over 30 ounces. Glock could create a major stir if they introduced a single-stack pistol that was similar in length and height to the compacts (allowing an eight round magazine), but as thin as possible and around 22 ounces. Of course, a .40 version would accompany it, but Glock could make a big splash with the amazing ballistics of the .357 and the light-but-manageable Slimline Compact format.

I'd buy one...and pick up a .40 barrel for it, too.
 
#53 ·
Good point. Have a Sig 239 and also both the Shield and G43. Talking about, reading about, holding, dry firing and firing at the Range are all elements that factor in to what gun we like. However, when it comes to carrying the gun all day, every day, weight, at least with me, becomes a big issue. I've found that if it isn't comfortable, with most people, it won't be carried. Love my little G43 and will carry my Wilson 1911 Ultralight Compact on occasion because I like the gun, and have it.
 
#16 ·
Rocky I agree and disagree. While I feel some of the stagnation with Glock is because of the international fiasco that is Gaston and his nurse/wife vs. his family I feel it will take decades to sort out. Probably long after he finally dies.
 
#19 ·
The G43 is an effective size; it carries well in the pocket or waistband or on the ankle, it's light, thin, and very concealable. It's reliable.

While I like the .40 cartridge, it wouldn't offer any substantial improvement over the 9mm for that size pistol; it might offer cartridge commonality if one is carrying a .40 and using the G43 as a backup.

To me, the G43 is in the same vein as a pocket sub nose revolver, except that it's easier to reload and has a greater capacity, as well as more muzzle energy and velocity than a .38 spl.

While I like .40 and have a number of .40 pistols and have carried, shot, and reloaded .40 extensively, I don't know that an effort to make a G43 in .40 would net anything or give me any advantage over the G43 in 9X19. I don't think it would be nearly the seller that the G43 is now. For Glock, it's all about what they can sell. There's no incentive to make on in .40.
 
#24 ·
There are reasons that you see so many police trade-in guns in .40. It was a silly round made only because some couldn't handle the 10mm (which I love) and they came out with the .40 Short and Weak. It is an obsolete caliber with the modern 9mm and even better yet the .357sig. If it were so great why wouldn't the military and police departments be placing orders? PD's are getting rid of them, not because they are worn out. With the few rounds shot by the average officer, they should last through several generations of new guys/gals. Not to mention the cost of even practice ammo compared to a 9mm. You couldn't give me one.
 
#28 ·
Lots of folks in law enforcement these days are just not gun people. The last two I trained had never fired a gun in their life before attending BLET. Both I had to train at the range (extra training) to handle the recoil of 9mm in a full size 17! For standard issue in that light the 9mm makes sense. I'd hardly say that makes the 9mm the best choice for all officers though. Frankly the whole FBI lie about 9mm being just as effective as 40cal and 45acp trying to justify new guns to placate the weak wristed sissies in their group that can't handle recoil is starting to amuse me finally. The FBI would have made more sense by issuing a choice of guns (17,22,21SF) but recent history has shown they are not capable of making sensible choices.
 
#25 ·
If Hillary were to be president, Glock should immediately concentrate on developing, and marketing an exclusive Glock Revolver. With a 5 Shot & 7 Shot models. Chambered in .357 mag /.38 +P, 9mm calibers.
A 2" barrel revolver in both capacities would be very popular. Providing it was priced right .
 
#26 ·
While not trying to be an alarmist, nor trying to run up the price of guns, used Glocks are cheap right now. $350 is an honest price in the free states. If you are worried, now is the time to buy. I personally have all the guns and ammo I'll ever need, and ammo would be my main concern. Much easier to regulate than guns with the Second Amendment. While it does mention sufficient ammo, that can be interpreted many ways. Sufficient for what? One round is all you need for home protection if you are very good with one intruder. Load your own? It does not mention reloading supplies.
 
#33 ·
Morning cowboywannabe

If you want one just buy an XD-S .40-- real close in size & shape.

I have one (XD-S .40) & it kicks like a mule with decent powered ammo in it.

If I tame it down to 9mm recoil then might as well just carry a 9mm. In fact I usually do as I carry the G-43 instead on of the XD-S & the XD-S .40 has a much nicer trigger pull.

It has taken me a lot of test re-loads & work-ups to get the short barrel XD-S to give me decent bullet speed & low flash in the .40. I could get the speed fairly easily with real hot loads and fast powder but that gave me a blinding flash shooting in the dark (follow up shots were hit & miss--mostly miss)

If you at sticking with factory loads then the 9mm has more/better short barrel factory loads.
 
#35 ·
I doubt it's coming. The .40 Shield is usually discounted far more than the 9mm Shield, and the Glock 27 is FAR less popular than the 26. The Kahr PM40 doesn't sell well at all.

The recoil of the Compact .40's is a turn off for a lot of people. The subcompacts even more so, and the micro sized .40 is probably just too small for a hot little round like the .40.

Like anything else, some will like it. I just believe Glock anticipates the sales not warranting the production.
 
#36 ·
The 43/42/17M/19M are two pin guns. Will never see a .40.

Glock is making guns as fast as they can and doesn't have time to build another gun. People wanted mini guns in 380 and 9. I have guns in 380,9,40,357sig. I'm happy with what I have.
My brother carries a Glock 31 for work. They're very happy with it.
 
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