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Question: G43 for car gun

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#1 ·
have 2 19's and a 43. Was keeping a 19 bedside, 43 kitchen drawer, and 19 in the console of truck. But several times getting out of truck thought would like a gun but the 19 would not go in pocket.
Then moved a19 to kitchen and 43 in pocket holster to truck. Now can have to stick in my pocket.
Is this thinking correctly?
 
#2 ·
I always thought of a car gun as something a little bigger than you'd want to regularly keep on your hip. I'd look at a 45ACP or a 44 Magnum. The ruger super blackhawk would be my choice from my current inventory at the moment. Considering the types of targets you'd have to shoot at from a car, might as well pick something that will go through a car door.

http://www.theboxotruth.com/the-buick-o-truth-3-pistols-and-car-doors/
 
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Sounds like you want your truck gun to do double duty. If that's the case the 43 is fine for that. Just remember the compromise you are making. My thought would be "why not both?" A pocket gun for when you're out of the truck and a dedicated truck gun for while you're driving? My truck gun is an AR15.
 
#6 ·
Keeping any loaded handgun in your unattended vehicle is not a bright thing to do. Especially inside a glove-box or under the console.

Stats show vehicle thefts and break-ins on a national average are increasing.

Just imagine how you would feel coming out to your vehicle and finding it vandalized.
Imagine your vehicle was stolen.
In either situation, the only thing your cursing yourself for doing is leaving your handgun in it.
 
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Keeping any loaded handgun in your unattended vehicle is not a bright thing to do. Especially inside a glove-box or under the console.

Stats show vehicle thefts and break-ins on a national average are increasing.

Just imagine how you would feel coming out to your vehicle and finding it vandalized.
Imagine your vehicle was stolen.
In either situation, the only thing your cursing yourself for doing is leaving your handgun in it.
I drive wranglers, no doors whenever possible, bikini top most of the time (canopy but no back/ rear windows)...I have med kits on my roll bars, expensive items inside...never had anything stolen not even at the "no tell motel" in Richmond for $35/ night...
 
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Keeping any loaded handgun in your unattended vehicle is not a bright thing to do. Especially inside a glove-box or under the console.

Stats show vehicle thefts and break-ins on a national average are increasing.

Just imagine how you would feel coming out to your vehicle and finding it vandalized.
Imagine your vehicle was stolen.
In either situation, the only thing your cursing yourself for doing is leaving your handgun in it.
If your several thousand dollar car is stolen, "the only thing your cursing yourself for doing is leaving your handgun in it"? Why?

Insurance pays for the contents as well as the car and if you only have liability insurance, the $400 gun is a whole lot easier to replace. Don't leave a gun with sentimental value in your car.

First time for everything. You leaving a gun in an unattended car is rolling the dice unless locked in a lock box. And even then, they might just steal the whole car.
Leaving a gun in the car is just putting faith in the criminal not to pick you to be his victim
Aaaand...ridiculous again.
 
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#54 ·
If your several thousand dollar car is stolen, "the only thing your cursing yourself for doing is leaving your handgun in it"? Why?

Insurance pays for the contents as well as the car and if you only have liability insurance, the $400 gun is a whole lot easier to replace. Don't leave a gun with sentimental value in your car.



Aaaand...ridiculous again.
Bren, you claim to be an NRA Lifetime Member. That is good, wish more folks were.
Do you have an NRA logo sticker on your vehicle today.?....Be honest and straight, yes or no.?
 
#9 ·
There may be a middle ground on a "truck gun".

A long time ago I had a car stolen. The guys that stole it turned out to be some pretty rough characters. When I got the call they had recovered my car, it was in another city I had to fly to, to pick it up.

I got the car, drove it home and when I was cleaning it up, I discovered a Ruger Security Six, cocaine and other drug implements hidden under the seat, under the carpeting (which had been neatly slit to accommodate the hiding place).

The contraband got through the police and even the normal wrecking yard clean out of anything of value that was in the car.

I think an under seat hiding place might be a reasonable compromise to get a little more fire power close by, without offering it up in the usual places common thieves might riffle through.
 
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That's crazy!
What did you do with the found property, if we may inquire?
 
#11 ·
have 2 19's and a 43. Was keeping a 19 bedside, 43 kitchen drawer, and 19 in the console of truck. But several times getting out of truck thought would like a gun but the 19 would not go in pocket.
Then moved a19 to kitchen and 43 in pocket holster to truck. Now can have to stick in my pocket.
Is this thinking correctly?

hell no...

now I'm not sure I'm reading your intent correctly but a "car gun" that remains in the car should be bigger since you aren't carrying it...

that being said, I keep a PF9 as my car gun...because I'm always carrying my 29 to and from it and the PF9 really is a back up and just stays in the car in the event I need to downsize my pistol on the fly or in the event I do use lethal force and my primary piece gets taken for "ballistics"...(I called you guys, said I shot him, he got large holes in him and they're 10mm, my gun is 10mm....what more "ballistics" do you need?)
 
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have 2 19's and a 43. Was keeping a 19 bedside, 43 kitchen drawer, and 19 in the console of truck. But several times getting out of truck thought would like a gun but the 19 would not go in pocket.
Then moved a19 to kitchen and 43 in pocket holster to truck. Now can have to stick in my pocket.
Is this thinking correctly?
Cars with guns and no owners to me is not a good idea, unless there is a very good reason, like going into a courtroom or workplace where stupid laws abound such as gun free zones. I would guess that a too large part of why scum break into cars in neighborhoods is that there are people who leave a gun in the car and they are hoping to get "lucky".
 
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#20 ·
I pocket carry a 43 every day, my wife edc's two 43's (one IWB and one in purse).

We also have an additional 43 that is the dedicated truck gun. It sets on the console while we're in the truck, and gets locked in the Console Vault when we exit.

When we both transitioned to 43's, the 43's also became our house guns.
 
#24 ·
My husband has a few long time friends on the Orlando, and Palm Beach Police Departments in Florida.
When they have their every 5 year confiscated gun sales at local gun shows, we have helped-out at a few events, the majority of guns sold were seized from criminals that had stolen them out of vehicles, and never claimed by the original owners.

I once purchased a MINT Condition S&W Model 66 revolver, .357 2" barrel for $120
Maybe someone leaving their gun in their vehicle can be an advantage.
 
#32 ·
have 2 19's and a 43. Was keeping a 19 bedside, 43 kitchen drawer, and 19 in the console of truck. But several times getting out of truck thought would like a gun but the 19 would not go in pocket.
Then moved a19 to kitchen and 43 in pocket holster to truck. Now can have to stick in my pocket.
Is this thinking correctly?
Seems like too many people throw common sense out the door when they start thinking.

If your choices of platforms fit your hands and you can deliver headshots at 10 yards in a defensive situation, that's first priority.

I Do Not advocate a weapon to be left in a vehicle, if I have to explain what could happen then think again.

If you have a permit to carry concealed then that's what should be practiced. What's inside your house again depends on fit, too many people worry about caliber wars and an arsenal when defensive posturing and hitting your target when the trigger is pulled.
 
#42 ·
Its your gun, your truck, your life, do as you think is best.
If you have a clamshell safe like Center Of Mass sells, or a Car Vault, such as sold by Sentry, you should be OK.
Depending upon where you live and travel too, is a 7 shot G-43 adequate?
I would think G-19 at home, G-19 truck, G-43 for running around pocket as back up to one of the G-19's.
 
#43 ·
The G43 seems easy enough to carry to just carry it rather than leave it in the vehicle for me.
 
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#46 ·
even in rural areas, cops can usually get on scene within 20 minutes. from alarm tripping to them loading up the safe was probably that long at least. but then again, what do I know.
one thing people don't realize is that alarms aren't immediate LEO notification... 1) alarm tripped 2) you have 30sec to enter pass before it actually sounds 3) 30sec later alarm sounds company is notified, 4) company attempts to make contact by phone (another 15-30sec) 5)after company is unable to make contact they notify local LEO, we'll assume that that number is located on the page that comes up w/ the alarm being tripped (if not they have to find it), 6) local LEO's are called (min 30sec for dispatcher to load call), 7) call is loaded and shipped to units this can take anywhere from 30-90sec and lets hope the CAD doesn't have any notes about weapons in home because the response will take longer)...and now at this point we start the nat'l response time...

I think it was around 10min for these guys- I dunno...but either way you're right
 
#47 ·
much of that delay is because of the owner of the system. mine is set up so that when I am "away" there is only one door that will not trip immediately, but has a glass break near it should it be forced open which will then trip immediately. also, I have it set up to dispatch the cops when my alarm trips, not to waste time calling me or mine. im one of those alarm owners that actually knows how to use the system and haven't had a false alarm since I got it (10plus years). glass breaks, motion detectors, of course door alarms.... all make for instant alarm tripping when set properly when youre "away".
 
#49 ·
I must emphatically agree.
All your guns should be either in a safe, or under your control at all times. It's the responsible approach.
Sometimes you must leave a gun in the car to walk into a prohibited area.

Otherwise, car guns are generally a bad idea and I prohibited my officers from keeping a car gun. In 99% of the situations, you can use the car to drive away or even run down the offenders (that's real "stopping power"!)

If you do need fight on the scene, you usually want to exit the vehicle in a hurry, having the gun already on your body best allows that and you can keep it concealed for a big surprise a few moments later.
 
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