My G19 was made in Austria in the late 1990's and purchased new here in the USA.
It came with the grooved "target" trigger to meet the import criteria, but now Glock is making G19's in the US and they would be legal with the smooth trigger. But I'm not sure if Glock is making them smooth here, nor if they would install a smooth one in my particular gun.
Yeah, I had some things to update on the gun and sending to Glock would be the easiest and probably the cheapest way. But only if they'll do the trigger.
The trigger swap is cheap and completely w/in the realm of the super easy. Stock connecter, no safety issue, you are ultimately just changing the shoe for $14.
It'll cost you $50+ each way unless Glock picks up the tab or you find an FFL that can get you a cheaper rate thru their shipping discounts. Not sure what Glock's policy is on out-of-warranty guns, but late 90s most certainly is I would think.
If they are under warranty make sure Glock pays for the shipping both ways. They are infamous for using customers as quality control inspectors instead of paying for their own.
They might. Back in 1989, I took my first Glock, a G17g2, in to Glock to see if it needed any updates. They promptly removed the adjustable target sights (for import points) and replaced them with the fixed dovetail protectors at no charge.
Regardless of where G19s are being made, it has nothing to do with the legality of a smooth-face trigger. It has always been legal for the owner to install a smooth-face Trigger with Trigger Bar in any Glock Compact or Subcompact pistol.
However, Glock, the manufacturer and importer, will not do that.
I want the newer trigger mech housing, trigger assembly, and trigger spring; to reduce the chances of spring breakage.
Getting the parts free or at minimal cost from Glock would just be easier than ordering parts, and often they see and update other things while they have the gun.
That's not too likely, judging from Glock reps that I've met at local Glock dealers who have told me they don't look to upgrade parts of pistols brought to them unless the owner has some complaint that applies. Your plan sounds penny wise and pound foolish. Just go ahead buy the parts you list above, plus a RSA, a Slide Lock Spring, and a Slide Stop Lever and Spring from a third-party parts dealer. These parts are dirt cheap, even from an third-party dealer. But...perhaps your G19 is just a toy without any serious purpose, so it doesn't really matter.
They might even be able to fit some 10 rd mags that reliably feed JHP, which no combination of springs/followers/bodies has ever done in my guns.
Personally, I find the trigger safety (that doesn't retract fully into the face of the trigger) to be far more irritating than the grooves on the serrated trigger face. Because of this, I swap in the Apex trigger onto the stock trigger bar.
This. Although I found both to be annoying. The trigger safety is a bigger issue IMO. But the combo on the G19 (and G43 in my case) I find painful to shoot long sessions at the range. I could get by w/ my 17 pretty well. But, I did the same, but got the SSVI trigger. Love it now. Put one in my 43 and my 17.
The "action enhancement" Glock trigger. They only make one trigger for Glocks -- either with or without the bar. They don't do a whole lot for the pull itself (they do shorten over-travel a bit), but they feel better to me. The face is essentially flat laterally with a slight curve vertically. The trigger safety retracts fully into the face of the trigger. Plus it's all aluminum.
The "action enhancement" Glock trigger. They only make one trigger for Glocks -- either with or without the bar. They don't do a whole lot for the pull itself (they do shorten over-travel a bit), but they feel better to me. The face is essentially flat laterally with a slight curve vertically. The trigger safety retracts fully into the face of the trigger. Plus it's all aluminum.
The reason a G19 has a serrated trigger(competition-whatever) face is due to ATF "point" rules. A G17 is smooth.
Glock does not want to violate ATF rules as a company.
It has to do with the size of the gun as well. There's reason some Glock .380's are not imported to the US because they don't meet ATF point requirements.
To import G19, it MUST have a serrated trigger to meet point system. Glock as a Corporation, is NOT going to install a smooth faced trigger on a G19 (BTW, get a G17 smooth face and drops right in the G19).
Nothing says your can't have a smooth trigger face on G19. Glock just cannot import them that way.
Good question. I asked that and forgot. To me, I see no reason they cannot since their assembled here. The parts can al come from Asutria. As long as it's assembled here in the US, it's a US gun.
Look up ATF rules on the point system. It may have something to do with. I don't remember.
IIRC, the gun must meet the import standards when it is imported into the US. After that, the restrictions no longer apply. I read that some smaller models (G26? G19?) needed to have adjustable target sights to meet the standard, so Glock developed the cheap (but cute) plastic adjustable rear sight and installed those on the guns built in Austria but headed here. Once the guns arrived in the US, the adjustable sights could be, and usually were, replaced by the standard fixed sight. The story was that Smyrna had barrels full of the removed adjustables that weren't even worth shipping back to Austria.
Can someone verify or refute that?
Why Glock doesn't install smooth triggers on G19's and similar guns built here is a mystery to me. Do G19's in Austria and not intended for the US market have smooth triggers?
I carried an old 17 and 5 non-drop free mags to Glock and left with an up-dated 17 and 5 new mags.
The only original parts left was the frame , slide and barrel.
All at no cost to me.
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