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Any reason to switch from a PPQ M2 to a Sig P320 compact.

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#1 ·
I have the M2 with night sights, holster, extra mags, and about 3K trustworthy rounds down the pipe. Fondled the Sig recently and have been fairly obsessed ever since.I really liked it. No, I can't have both. Any reason to make this switch?
 
#39 ·
Well, it's been almost 5 months since you started this thread, so you may have already made your decision by now.

IAC, maybe you and others will find this very well done review, test, and comparison on Youtube helpful:
HK VP9 vs Sig P320 vs Walther PPQ - Ultimate Striker Fired Pistol

I have not owned nor fired either pistol, so consider that for what it's worth.
But I have been extensive researching the SIG P320 over the last week or so, and I must have read/viewed at least a 100 reviews and videos by now.
Here is what I have found reported about the P320:
  1. No major failures or issues of any kind
  2. Not even any minor issues, other than one shooter reported getting blisters on his trigger finger
  3. Almost no malfunctions while firing. Several report this after 1,000 rounds and after 4,000 rounds
  4. Seems to fire almost any brand of ammo
  5. Almost all liked the trigger, many saying it is the best stock trigger. Your Walther PPQ is the exception (see the above video).
  6. Almost all like the feel of the grip (which you can easily change from the std "medium" to "small" or "large")
  7. And, of course, it is undoubtedly the most configurable (as designed by the manuf.) handgun out there, and it is very easy to breakdown and make changes.
  8. Quite a few shooters were amazed how accurate their first shots with it were.
So I guess I end up with a conflicted opinion:
  • On one hand the P320 is a great gun, liked by many, and has almost no complaints. In fact, I plan to buy it this week.
  • On the other hand, you already have a great gun. Unless there is something you really don't like about it, why change?
    • You've got a gun you already know very well, and have trained with
    • There are no major differences in features, performance, or reliability of the two guns.
Before I would change, I would definitely put at least a box of target ammo and PD ammo through a rented/loaned P320, probably also firing/comparing to your Walther. I think you can take your time in making this decision. Do your due diligence, read as much as you can, post questions as needed, start research on gun dealers. Once possible target date for a decision is Black Friday. Maybe there will be some great deals available on the P320.

Good luck in whatever you decide, and please let us know how it works out for you.
 
#40 ·
My opinion pretty much mirrors a lot of other folks. I also like the PPQ for its ergos and trigger, but I did find it a bit snappy compared to other platforms. It is still an outstanding platform though, and I still have my M1 version, but it never made it in to my full time duty rotation.

I have had quite a bit of trigger time with my 320 now, and I am here to tell you it is the real deal. It is a superb weapon. It is crazy accurate, and has been 100% reliable for over 4k rounds. Sig did a good job with it, and it has been gaining a lot of traction with local LE folks around here. There are 5 officer in my department carrying them now.

The VP9 is an excellent choice as well. They are very accurate and the one I had ate everything I put through it. I just couldn't warm up to it for some reason, I guess I didn't drink enough of the kool aid..:)

I have been a Glock person for a very long time. They are by no means perfect, but for what I use them for they fit my criteria. The 320 has come along and it fits right in there with the Glock. I have always had an affinity for Sigs so the Glocks have been relegated to safe duty while my 320 is now my full time duty weapon.

TXPO
 
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#41 ·
I have the M2 with night sights, holster, extra mags, and about 3K trustworthy rounds down the pipe. Fondled the Sig recently and have been fairly obsessed ever since.I really liked it. No, I can't have both. Any reason to make this switch?
Wants, needs and desires are sometimes difficult to prioritize. In your case, it seems, a strong desire has exceeded a sensible need. If you cave to your frantic desires and ignore any practical restraint you will become an obsessive compulsive gun junkie- like the rest of us. :2gun:
 
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#43 ·
Obsessed? No comparison IMO. I have found nothing that beats the PPQ in forms of ergonomics and trigger. PPQ 45 ACP will be my next handgun ,its suppose to have even a slightly better trigger, cant wait!
 
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#45 ·
I own the M1 PPQ with over 2,000 error free rounds down range. I was also smitten by the Sig and purchased the carry model in 9mm. My results...... I was very disappointed in it. Trigger although nice, didn't measure up to the PPQ and my the poa/poi was different in that it ended up being a 6 o:clock hold (which I do not like). Took the Sig to the range two times, then sold it. Luckily I did not get rid of my PPQ....

I highly recommend that you do not make the same mistake I made and be sure to rent a Sig P320 at a local range and shoot it BEFORE you get rid of the Walther. IMO the Walther PPQ is a better pistol...... Good luck..
 
#46 ·
I think Ive decided that if I ever get rid of my Q it will be for a Glock 19. In fact, I think any future striker fired purchases will be Glocks. Currently trying to get out of PA and back to AZ, so I wouldnt do anything until then, as I like the AZ laws on pistol purchases much more. Until then the Q isn't going anywhere, and my desire for the Sig went away.
 
#48 ·
I think Ive decided that if I ever get rid of my Q it will be for a Glock 19. In fact, I think any future striker fired purchases will be Glocks...
If forced to choose between the two, the PPQ would easily be my pick. When you get to Arizona, find a range that rents guns and trial your choices along side your PPQ. You may find something better, but I don't think it will be a Glock.

 
#52 ·
One of the key reasons I chose and bought a Sig P320 is that it is so great right out-of-the box. Great trigger and great SigLite NS.

Whereas with Glock and M&P it seems almost everyone feels the need to upgrade the trigger and sights.

The Walther PPQ is definitely a close 2nd (after the P320) overall. Many like the trigger better.
 
#54 ·
I like the PPQ trigger a little better than the P320 trigger, though I find the P320 trigger to be VERY nice! Overall, though, I much prefer the way the P320 fills and fits in the hand. The PPQ grip just feels a bit odd to me. The P320 feels fantastic in my hand AND has a really nice trigger.

My Glocks were mostly displaced by my M&P40 and M&P40C. And now, I think the P320s are going to displace my M&Ps. I have high hopes for the widespread and deserved success of the P320. I can see having P320s in .45, .40, and 9mm.
 
#56 · (Edited)
As normal in threads like this it just shows that different shooters have very different views of the same handguns. Here's mine, based on actual experience.

I own both the PPQ and the P320 compact and I've shot them a lot. The PPQ was perfect out of the box. The 320 had to go back to Sig because it shot way high at ten yards and the original slide stop was too big and in exactly the wrong place for me. As anyone familiar with the 320 knows, Sig is making moving changes to the slide stop, take down lever (which causes me no problem), the trigger and a slight change to the frame. If you buy a new one will you get all new parts? Maybe, maybe not. I see them on local shelves with a mix of new and old. I've yet to see one with all the new upgraded parts.

A personal problem I had with the original 320 trigger was that shooting it bare handed it gave me a bloody blister on the bottom edge of my trigger finger after a box or less of ammo. No fun. The front of the trigger is pointy and sharp. Others have had the same problem although most don't seem to. I replaced the trigger with a flat faced Apex trigger which fixed the bloody finger problem immediately.

The ergonomics of the P320 are okay but not near in the league of the VP9, PPQ or FNS-9. It is quite vertical but still okay with me. Like most Sigs, it looks tall and blocky but doesn't feel so in the hand.

The P320 trigger is very good, but again not in the league of the VP9 or PPQ, which can only be called excellent. I also like the FNS trigger better than the 320. I don't see how anyone who has shot these four guns could say the 320 is the best trigger. Different strokes I guess. Nor do I see how anyone could say the PPQ is tall or top heavy compared to the 320. It isn't. Because the slide tapers toward the top the PPQ feels the most balance of any compact striker I own. The most top heavy of the guns I've mentioned is the VP9 but it's balance is also so good it is only noticeable when you first pick it up from its side on a flat surface.

The trigger on the PPQ is smooth but not "too light" as some say. Put it on a trigger pull gauge and see for yourself what you get. Smooth is not the same as light. Same with the VP9, smooth but not feather light like some say about that gun also.

Some say the recoil flip is more noticeable in the PPQ and the 320. I notice it a tiny bit in both guns only if I concentrate on noticing it for a shot or two. In normal shooting it just isn't a factor. Amazingly, some even say the same about the VP9and it definitely isn't.

I like both my P320 and PPQ. Unlike a lot of people I'm not brand loyal to any brand or biased against any brand. I will never be a Sig guy, Glock guy, HK guy, Walther guy or any other kind of "guy". I'm a shooter and buy what I like and sell it if it doesn't work well for me.

But I do have preference based on fit, feel and performance. In the ranking hierarchy of my present compact strikers it is difficult to choose between the VP9 and PPQ. The FNS is very slightly behind in third place. However, for me the P320 doesn't compete with any of those. It's a good gun and I plan to keep it, but if I absolutely had to let one of my compact strikers go it would be the P320.

OP, if I owned only a PPQ I would definitely not sell it to buy a P320. To me that is a slight downgrade. However, if I owned only a P320 I would not sell it to finance a PPQ. Save you money until you can buy both.

In the end both these two guns will handle any range work, home defense or CCW use you will put them through. Both are high quality guns. The differences between them are real but more subtle than striking.

As always, I'm just thankful that we live in a country where we have the freedom and the many good handgun choices so that we can be nitpicky about our personal favorites. Good luck and good shooting.
 
#57 ·
Tuscany, you are right about how we can all arrive at different conclusions.
I have owned all the pistols that you mentioned.
My ranking of the trigger for me is:
1. PPQ
2. VP9
3. P320C
4. FNS 9
But its splitting hairs really, I could live with any of the above. Still PPQ has hands down the best striker fired trigger (on more than one example) I've tried.
 
#61 ·
Tuscany, you are right about how we can all arrive at different conclusions.
I have owned all the pistols that you mentioned.
My ranking of the trigger for me is:
1. PPQ
2. VP9
3. P320C
4. FNS 9
But its splitting hairs really, I could live with any of the above. Still PPQ has hands down the best striker fired trigger (on more than one example) I've tried.
I think the Arsenal Strike One has a comparable trigger and is far better quality with better accuracy than any of those.

It's bore axis is also way lower.
 
#63 · (Edited)
One reason may be because the grip feel-in-the-hand with the P320 is so superb. It sure is for me.

I sold the VP I had as the trigger guard groove irritated the crap out of my trigger finger. And then, I skipped the PPQ to begin with due to the way it felt in my hand, and went straight to P320s.

P320 Full size 40 and P320 Compact 9
 
#65 ·
I rented a 320 Compact once. It was good but really didn't excite me. The trigger was good but actually too light for my taste. It won't be replacing my Glocks. If I had a PPQ I wouldn't be replacing it with a 320.

The grip was ok but the VP9 and PPQ are better IMHO, and of course are adjustable unlike the 320 (unless you count swapping frames).
 
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