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The "Perfected" R51

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#1 ·
Who's going to be in line to beta test it this time???

Got an email announcing its re-release
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Because the R51 is so unlike any other handgun on the market, it posed unforeseen challenges in manufacturing when it was first introduced in 2014. Since then, our engineers have worked tirelessly to address the issues and extensively test the solutions, and we’re proud to say the redesigned R51 surpasses even our initial expectations.
 
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Who's going to be in line to beta test it this time???

Got an email announcing its re-release View attachment 289744


...proud to say the redesigned R51 surpasses even our initial expectations.
As I suspect their initial expectations were .... modest ... I don't see this as a great bar they had to leap....

Still.....

Uh, remind me why this is such a revolutionary handgun??
 
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The R51 is a beautiful looking handgun. It may well have all the bugs worked out and I hope that this is so. I see no advantage the Remington has over my two utterly reliable, well established and identically sized LC9 pistols. It would appear that, save for the curious, this handgun is coming out too late.
 
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My 80 year old step-mother has one of the original one's. Sweet shooting little pistol. I am honing my brown nosing, ass kissing skills!
 
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Not impressed by a failed first attempt and then ballyhooed ' tirelessly working' on manufacturing challenges. The biggest complaint was tool marks. As per old designs, the 1917 Savage ought to be resurrected and the 1903 Colt M as well. The 1903 Colt has a modern limited run for $1500... Talk about a buzz kill. Almost makes me want to commission a Pakistani rug maker/homeboy gunsmith scratch build me one in his home metal shop.
 
#22 ·
Well, I guess for starters, it's not a "plastic fantastic". The frame is a metal alloy. It has a hammer, not a striker, though it's internal. Also, it's single action, with no manual safeties, and no faux DA take up. The recoil spring goes over the barrel, doesn't have a separate guide rod assembly, which allows for a lower profile slide. Also, it's a completely different lockup, with a fixed barrel. The design allows for lighter recoil springs, which could benefit some weaker handed shooters. The size and slimness is very attractive as well.

This sounds like it's blowback operated like many of the 380's? Correct?
 
#23 ·
R51 is 9mm. RM380 is .380.

Both fired from a locked breech. Somewhat novel design for the R51 breech. I'm not willing to be a beta tester; but after the first R51 fiasco, I suspect/hope Remington shook it down VERY thoroughly. I'd be willing to give it a go in a year.

Again, my RM380 has been great. Lowest racking force of any centerfire pistol I've tried. People who can't rack other pistols can rack an RM380. IIRC, the R51 has a similarly low slide racking force. That's not enough reason to buy one; but it does make it different (in a good way) from other pistols if you (or someone you know) have a need for an easy to rack pistol.

If you don't have a need for one; that's fine too; but there's no reason to disparage what you have no direct experience with (ie R51 v2.0)
 
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Well, I guess for starters, it's not a "plastic fantastic". The frame is a metal alloy. It has a hammer, not a striker, though it's internal. Also, it's single action, with no manual safeties, and no faux DA take up. The recoil spring goes over the barrel, doesn't have a separate guide rod assembly, which allows for a lower profile slide. Also, it's a completely different lockup, with a fixed barrel. The design allows for lighter recoil springs, which could benefit some weaker handed shooters. The size and slimness is very attractive as well.
Ahhh, thanks, Bucky, just the info I needed.

Well, I would be interested in seeing if they initially sell at a reduced price point. It has been two years, they should have had enough time to debug it.

I am currently a sucker for an all-metal anything.
 
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One would think Remington learned from other manufacturers and vet their new releases thoroughly. Glock had trouble with their gen 4's, Springfield had a recall with the XDs and Caracal still isn't back in the USA after their fiasco.

One thing the internet does well is spread negative information with blistering speed. Putting sub-par products into the market before they're ready is a stupid decision that costs a company more fixing the problems, re-building a tarnished reputation and restoring customer confidence. It seems these companies have to continually relearn this lesson.

I hope they get it right this time.
 
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#30 ·
It appears it may not "like" Russian 9mm ammo. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/07/03/first-remington-r51-range-report-see/

I bought my issued 3913TSW since the R51 originally came and went, so I filled that spot in my collection. (I'd originally hand-selected that new, unissued 3913TSW, too, from the remaining few unissued boxes. ;) )

Now I have a 3913 and a late production 3913TSW.

Maybe the R51 will actually work this time. I hope it's not a case of Remington trying to bring the little metal gun to market at too low of a price point for investing enough (manufacturing & production-wise) into the pistol to let it work and be durable, though. It's cute. (The "Aww, how cute" type of cute.)
 
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Ah, as a resident of Alabama I really, really, want to support the production process and put some money in the pockets of the folks that build them. It helps my state, and helps industry, and helps Remington, who are attempting to make the move to a more gun friendly state.

I'll buy a RM380 before I buy a RM51, simply because I have some secondhand information from a person I respect that owns one and has raved about how good it is.

I will keep an eye out for the RM51, because I keep hope alive.

I will, however, wait until the facts prove out that this is a workable design, and they have in fact built a reliable handgun. I really, really hope that happens.
 
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