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Dont drink the Kool Aid

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#1 ·
Im sure that this will upset the "fan boys". But at least I have the balls to say it. Glock perfection is a thing of the past. Im tired of being told to "overlook the manufaturing problems and shoot it". NO I WON'T. Glocks issues are simply not acceptable. Any one want to argue that the following issues are acceptable?
1)Tenifer is gone. The new finish sucks.
2) Glocks easily rust
3) G43 mag issues
4) G42 where do I start
5) 1year warranty, and it does not cover the finish.
6) Customer service, or lack of
7) mismatched serial numbers following repair

I have only listed a few issues, please feel free to add yours.
Oh, and fan boys, keep drinking the Kool Aid
 
#3 ·
Send me photos of your 43 mags and your trigger bar.(You know... Where the trigger bar rubs against the slide when you field strip it. Glock needs to learn how to use a micrometer. ) Then I might believe you. And I really doubt if your 43 doesnt have mag problems. And while your at it, better start looking for rust on any gen4s if you iwb carry
 
#4 ·
Okay, I'll bite:

I can only address the areas to which I have had experiences. Shot the 42 brand new out of the box (wasn't mine but a friend's). From word go it fed and spit everything we put in it. No hiccups whatsoever. +p, wwb, reloads, all performed beautifully.

Glocks rust? Who said they didn't? Do they rust at the same rate as other firearms? Lol. Not even close.

Yes, glocks have a one year warranty but they have always done more. A family member had his g19 in the glove box when his truck melted. The gun looked like it was fine. I told him to send it to glock. Out of warranty. They tested and determined the frame had heat cracks. Offered to make a new frame (upper was fine) or allow him to purchase a new g4 at a substantial discount. My g22 was sent in to for the frame recall. It took a long time. Their ****ty customer service decided to give me 6 hi cap mags for my troubles.

No Kool aid. You should try talking to S&W or maybe Taurus. Make them the benchmarks. You'd find glock to be heavenly.

Ymmv
 
#7 ·
Okay, I'll bite:

I can only address the areas to which I have had experiences. Shot the 42 brand new out of the box (wasn't mine but a friend's). From word go it fed and spit everything we put in it. No hiccups whatsoever. +p, wwb, reloads, all performed beautifully.

Glocks rust? Who said they didn't? Do they rust at the same rate as other firearms? Lol. Not even close.

Yes, glocks have a one year warranty but they have always done more. A family member had his g19 in the glove box when his truck melted. The gun looked like it was fine. I told him to send it to glock. Out of warranty. They tested and determined the frame had heat cracks. Offered to make a new frame (upper was fine) or allow him to purchase a new g4 at a substantial discount. My g22 was sent in to for the frame recall. It took a long time. Their ****ty customer service decided to give me 6 hi cap mags for my troubles.

No Kool aid. You should try talking to S&W or maybe Taurus. Make them the benchmarks. You'd find glock to be heavenly.

Ymmv
Gulp, gulp. Go on you youtube and search glock rust. Lots of articles. Now, search ruger lcp rust. Hmmmm. Gulp, gulp. Recall. Long time. You never should have had to send it in. Dont drink the kool aid.
 
#6 ·
Any one want to argue that the following issues are acceptable?
I can't say. I have not experienced any of the seven issues you list in about 20 years of owning the brand. All my current Glocks are Gen4. I like them even better than my first... a Gen 2 model 17.

Your problem is easily solved. Sell your Glock and find something better.
 
#8 ·
My only complaint is that I wish Glock still used the old Teflon finish. Other than that, all of my Glocks have been trouble free. No complaints.
It's really an easy fix. If the Glock doesn't make you happy, simply sell or trade yours for something that will and move on. At least that's what always worked for me.
 
#12 ·
My only complaint is that I wish Glock still used the old Teflon finish. Other than that, all of my Glocks have been trouble free. No complaints.
It's really an easy fix. If the Glock doesn't make you happy, simply sell or trade yours for something that will and move on. At least that's what always worked for me.
Exactly. I think that if everyone would stand thier ground with glock, they would be fo
My only complaint is that I wish Glock still used the old Teflon finish. Other than that, all of my Glocks have been trouble free. No complaints.
It's really an easy fix. If the Glock doesn't make you happy, simply sell or trade yours for something that will and move on. At least that's what always worked for me.[/QUO
 
#9 ·
Clearly not a fanboi, we have only three Glocks, only had trouble with one and they fixed it under warranty. BUT there are some fine weapons out there that are as good, or better than a Glock. Glocks are not the holy grail of firearms, hell they do not even make a rifle, so a gun owner must buy from someone other than the gun god.

I shoot all of my guns well, some much better than the Glock. Glocks have acceptable accuracy, but it is far, far, far from perfect. I have only seen that type of perfection with a few types of firearms, and they either had fixed barrels, barrel bushings, or were revolvers. Glock just does not cut it as far as bullseye accuracy IMO.

As far as the small problems I can overlook them, that is normal with all brands. The claim of perfection though is outright lying, it is impossible. I tend to not trust a company that has no problem with telling whoppers.
 
#13 ·
Im sure that this will upset the "fan boys". But at least I have the balls to say it. Glock perfection is a thing of the past. Im tired of being told to "overlook the manufaturing problems and shoot it". NO I WON'T. Glocks issues are simply not acceptable. Any one want to argue that the following issues are acceptable?
1)Tenifer is gone. The new finish sucks. Are you saying the finish and tenifer are the same thing? My SIG P6 finish is worn almost away.
2) Glocks easily rust I've got Gen 1 through Gen 4 guns. Sometimes they are put up dirty AND wet. Only rust I've experienced was on aftermarket sights and parts. My S&W revolvers rust more quickly.
3) G43 mag issues What issues? I've only shot 200 rounds through mine but the drop free fine and I've had 0 failures in feeding.
4) G42 where do I start Don't own one but shot several different ones in matches. Never experienced a problem but don't know what the owners did, when gun was purchased, etc...
5) 1year warranty, and it does not cover the finish. A one year warranty is fine with me. I don't care about the finish. I care that the gun works. Mine have and still do so.
6) Customer service, or lack of My most recent customer service interaction was to ask them to delay shipping my GSSF prize until my FFL gets his new address on his license. Two return calls and a confirmation email. Is this treatment bad?
7) mismatched serial numbers following repair Are you talking replacement frames or what?

None of the above are arguments, just statements, and aren't meant to change your opinion on Glocks or their "perfection". You have a drum to beat so as Sonny and Cher said "The beat goes on".
 
#14 ·
Im sure that this will upset the "fan boys". But at least I have the balls to say it. Glock perfection is a thing of the past. Im tired of being told to "overlook the manufaturing problems and shoot it". NO I WON'T. Glocks issues are simply not acceptable. Any one want to argue that the following issues are acceptable?
1)Tenifer is gone. The new finish sucks.
2) Glocks easily rust
3) G43 mag issues
4) G42 where do I start
5) 1year warranty, and it does not cover the finish.
6) Customer service, or lack of
7) mismatched serial numbers following repair

I have only listed a few issues, please feel free to add yours.
Oh, and fan boys, keep drinking the Kool Aid
Your post is meant to be provocative and nothing more. You are trying to start a flame war with these statements. Anyone can go online at any time and find numerous accounts of issues with almost anything. Where you fail is in your inability to understand how ANY problems with ANYTHING are so greatly exaggerated by online accounts. So it seems as if perhaps you have "drank the kool-aide" Sir.
 
#16 ·
Has Glock quality decreased? The only thing I've really noticed is the finish quality of the internal parts. Not as clean as they used to be.
Function and durability hasn't changed in what I've seen.
I'm sure there have been issues with some pistols but hardly on a large scale.
Glocks work and are pretty durable.
I prefer my Sigs.
 
#18 · (Edited)
Silly to expect members of any branded forum to agree with you! Most join because they drank the Koolaid and are now looking to buy the company. :kidding: I'm just kidding! I have recently enjoyed the Koolaid of multiple brands and they are all so delicious!

No, Glocks are far from perfect, especially out of the box (so so trigger, so so ergos at best, crappy plastic sights, crappy finish cosmetically for those that do not refer to their firearms as simply "tools", etc.). I can look past the plastic guiderod especially since it is obviously not an issue. They are certainly not the most attractive pistols, but they were never intended to be "sexy". They are utilitarian firearms. What do they say, they are the "Honda Civic" of guns. However, they are probably the best bang for the buck (although some other striker offerings are giving them a run for their money!). Anyone can completely take them down and replace stock parts for pennies. Mags are inexpensive and compatible with many models. I don't need a PhD to take it down. Even the famous YouTube Glock "fanboys" will state that they are not the best at anything, but really good at most. Everyone and their brother sells them...

Bottom line, with a couple of inexpensive mods and some real sights I love my G19 & G21 (both Gen 4) and look forward to other models (G30, etc.) when my next GSSF coupon arrives! Knock on wood, no issues to date and most will vouch for Glock's customer service reputation.
 
#20 ·
Im sure that this will upset the "fan boys". But at least I have the balls to say it. Glock perfection is a thing of the past. Im tired of being told to "overlook the manufaturing problems and shoot it". NO I WON'T. Glocks issues are simply not acceptable. Any one want to argue that the following issues are acceptable?
1)Tenifer is gone. The new finish sucks.
2) Glocks easily rust
3) G43 mag issues
4) G42 where do I start
5) 1year warranty, and it does not cover the finish.
6) Customer service, or lack of
7) mismatched serial numbers following repair

I have only listed a few issues, please feel free to add yours.
Oh, and fan boys, keep drinking the Kool Aid
The new finish is fine. What, you dont like the color or something?
Glocks dont easily rust. I IWB a 26 and 19 and after years of carry still no rust.
OMG a mag doesnt drop free. They actually addressed that already and fixed the problem if I read right on another forum.
G42 is fine from what Ive heard. Not a fan of .380 but it works.
The warranty isnt bad. They usually hook you up with extras or great discounts if you ever need to use it.
They have great customer service, which is how I know you are just trying to troll.
And really? How do you suppose they give you the same serial number on a replacement part? You would have multiple serials like crazy and date of manufacture and lot numbers would all be messed up.

Feel free to give me all your defective non perfection glocks. Ill appreciate them.
 
#22 ·
These "issues" have all been beaten to death in thread after thread dating back years. :deadhorse:

Search function is your friend.
 
#23 ·
Oh, crap. I sent mine in for a (sort of) shiny new NP3+ finish, and after 5 years of carrying it IWB like that, a little bit of the back corner of the slide has started to wear off. ****! It's gunna rust! But wait... What's that underneath? Tennifer! That ain't wearing off if I carry it 500 years.
 
#24 ·
I've owned 6 Glocks in my life and still have 3 of them. My last acquisition was Gen 3 Glock 19 earlier this year. And as has been repeated ad-nauseum, the finish sucks. Don't care what any one says, it is still a valid issue. There is no excuse. I've seen people on this board say: "just get it cerakoted,"...well. Send me $150 and I'll gladly do it. Oh yeah, its "a tool." Well, I use tools for a living and I clean my tools after each use, keep them oiled and rust free. I want my Glock to look as good as my Snap-On wrenches.
 
#26 ·
Im sure that this will upset the "fan boys". But at least I have the balls to say it. Glock perfection is a thing of the past. Im tired of being told to "overlook the manufaturing problems and shoot it". NO I WON'T. Glocks issues are simply not acceptable. Any one want to argue that the following issues are acceptable?
1)Tenifer is gone. The new finish sucks.
2) Glocks easily rust
3) G43 mag issues
4) G42 where do I start
5) 1year warranty, and it does not cover the finish.
6) Customer service, or lack of
7) mismatched serial numbers following repair

I have only listed a few issues, please feel free to add yours.
Oh, and fan boys, keep drinking the Kool Aid

1. You don't know the difference between Tenifer and the finish
2. No they don't
3. No issues
4. Don't know as I don't have a 42
5. so what?
6. You get what you give
7. I call more BS
 
#27 ·
I hope the OP is not insinuating that marketing slogans are not true. What's next ?

Quality is not job 1 at Ford ?
People who eats at McDonalds aren't really loving it ?
A diamond is not really forever ?
A mind is really not a terrible thing to waste ?
Maxwell house is not good to the last drop ?
M&M's can occasionally melt in your hands?
People who smoke camels probably can't actually walk a mile for one?
 
#29 ·
Im sure that this will upset the "fan boys". But at least I have the balls to say it. Glock perfection is a thing of the past. Im tired of being told to "overlook the manufaturing problems and shoot it". NO I WON'T. Glocks issues are simply not acceptable. Any one want to argue that the following issues are acceptable?
1)Tenifer is gone. The new finish sucks.
2) Glocks easily rust
3) G43 mag issues
4) G42 where do I start
5) 1year warranty, and it does not cover the finish.
6) Customer service, or lack of
7) mismatched serial numbers following repair

I have only listed a few issues, please feel free to add yours.
Oh, and fan boys, keep drinking the Kool Aid
I have to back up Bill here as much as I can. The G43 mags will stick ever so slightly on insertion if you do it just right.
 
#30 ·
I have not experienced any of these issues either.
 
#32 ·
Exactly. I think that if everyone would stand thier ground with glock, they would be fo
Im sure that this will upset the "fan boys". But at least I have the balls to say it. Glock perfection is a thing of the past. Im tired of being told to "overlook the manufaturing problems and shoot it". NO I WON'T. Glocks issues are simply not acceptable. Any one want to argue that the following issues are acceptable?
1)Tenifer is gone. The new finish sucks. Are you saying the finish and tenifer are the same thing? My SIG P6 finish is worn almost away.
2) Glocks easily rust I've got Gen 1 through Gen 4 guns. Sometimes they are put up dirty AND wet. Only rust I've experienced was on aftermarket sights and parts. My S&W revolvers rust more quickly.
3) G43 mag issues What issues? I've only shot 200 rounds through mine but the drop free fine and I've had 0 failures in feeding.
4) G42 where do I start Don't own one but shot several different ones in matches. Never experienced a problem but don't know what the owners did, when gun was purchased, etc...
5) 1year warranty, and it does not cover the finish. A one year warranty is fine with me. I don't care about the finish. I care that the gun works. Mine have and still do so.
6) Customer service, or lack of My most recent customer service interaction was to ask them to delay shipping my GSSF prize until my FFL gets his new address on his license. Two return calls and a confirmation email. Is this treatment bad?
7) mismatched serial numbers following repair Are you talking replacement frames or what?

None of the above are arguments, just statements, and aren't meant to change your opinion on Glocks or their "perfection". You have a drum to beat so as Sonny and Cher said "The beat goes on".
Gulp, gulp, gulp, keep drinkin the kool aid. By the way. If you are af
Trolls, don't feed them
Fan boys.... Wanna buy a bridge
 
#39 ·
Gulp, gulp, gulp, keep drinkin the kool aid. By the way. If you are af

Fan boys.... Wanna buy a bridge
Well since you replied to my thread, here goes. I noticed your sign in is billsglock43, Karma may have not been in your corner, apparently the glock 43 really dissapointed you, especially if you used it as a sign in. Still waiting for your source suggestion as a refinisher, If you do not have one I understand, I am looking for one but not one that is worst but trying to be proactive. Again I do not have the problems that you do with your glocks but would like to pursue a better option if it exists. If you are not aware then I guess the KoolAid is on your table.

P.s. I do drink PowerAde, whats on your table?
 
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