It crops up, the finish we see today vs yesteryear has a different perception of appeal. Who is experiencing fantastic results with their after market finish ? The definition of fantastic results are: 1) daily holster wear, 1000 presentations, 2) rounds fired, 10,000 3) exposure to salt, heat and cold. 4) the finish has not added any additional weight nor measurement to impede the function of the slide.
The above suggests a finish and user that has experienced good results over a length of time, are there any fantastic experiences other than a Glock finish?
It crops up, the finish we see today vs yesteryear has a different perception of appeal. Who is experiencing fantastic results with their after market finish ? The definition of fantastic results are: 1) daily holster wear, 1000 presentations, 2) rounds fired, 10,000 3) exposure to salt, heat and cold. 4) the finish has not added any additional weight nor measurement to impede the function of the slide.
The above suggests a finish and user that has experienced good results over a length of time, are there any fantastic experiences other than a Glock finish?
Please note this in the thread named "Dont drink the Kool
Aid. If glock brags about perfection, maybe the should contract with a company like cerekote, instead of the new "improved finish"
Please note this in the thread named "Dont drink the Kool
Aid. If glock brags about perfection, maybe the should contract with a company like cerekote, instead of the new "improved finish"
Let me clarify, I do not consider Glock as a fantastic finish, only one that I have paid for, As an ex Purchasing Director I am looking for a finish that is better relative to my goals, do you have a specific supplier or just commenting about glock.?
The finish on my 2013 Gen 4 is holding up far better than any other manufacturer's factory finish that I own and after talking with a local guy that uses Cerakote exclusively, I declined to coat another pistol with the Cerakote. He pretty much told me up front that the Cerakote would show "normal" wear more than the frying pan stuff on my Glock.
I know some guys experience with recent Glock coatings hasn't been good but I continue to be impressed with mine. I've carried it almost daily out on my farm, in my shop, and everywhere else and I can't find a mark on the slide anywhere. I could wipe the dust/dirt off of it and you'd think it was a safe-queen as far as the slide goes. There are however some wear places showing on the polymer frame but who cares?
Let me clarify, I do not consider Glock as a fantastic finish, only one that I have paid for, As an ex Purchasing Director I am looking for a finish that is better relative to my goals, do you have a specific supplier or just commenting about glock.?[
The finish on my 2013 Gen 4 is holding up far better than any other manufacturer's factory finish that I own and after talking with a local guy that uses Cerakote exclusively, I declined to coat another pistol with the Cerakote. He pretty much told me up front that the Cerakote would show "normal" wear more than the frying pan stuff on my Glock.
I know some guys experience with recent Glock coatings hasn't been good but I continue to be impressed with mine. I've carried it almost daily out on my farm, in my shop, and everywhere else and I can't find a mark on the slide anywhere. I could wipe the dust/dirt off of it and you'd think it was a safe-queen as far as the slide goes. There are however some wear places showing on the polymer frame but who cares?
One note at present I have (7) gen 3's, eventually the 10 to15k rounds a year will take its toll. I personally have yet to find a substitute that can replace Glocks finish. I do see many who inquire and wonder what do they know that I do not. Thanks for responding.
The only purpose that a "coating" serves on a Glock is for owner satisfaction of appearance and cosmetic appeal. Newbies and wannabees want it pretty
Unlike many other guns, the bare Glock slide has already been treated for hardness and corrosion resistance and lubricity prior to the surface coating being applied. Back in the early Glock days, this process was called "tenifer" but since then it is now the generic metal treatment. Leaving it bare should be an option--- it takes away all those worried about the scratches and "wear marks" on the surface coat.
I've had my Gen4 G27 treated with nickel boron as my duty gun here in humid Baltimore. After 3 years of IWB carry, thousands of rounds and holster draws, it still looks brand new. I still put a tiny bit of weapon shield on the rails and lube points. I've now done my 23 due to rust issues. My 19 stays with the OEM finish
Nickel boron is very slick. I have a Glock with nickel boron, and several other gun components in NiB. It can be a problem if your hands are covered in wet, blood, or other oily stuff.
NiB is not as hard as TiN (Titanium nitride), and will show rub marks with enough exposure-- just like TiN will (see drill bits coated in TiN). Both of these are good choices but for Glocks, it's like putting butter on lard-- no need for it.
I'm was part of a federal SWAT team and used to run my NIB X 23 with all my gear sweating profusely. I dont find it any more slick than the Teflon feeling slide of my old gen 3 22. But my gen 4 27 and 23 started showing rust from IWB carry, and it stopped once I had them treated
If you are referring to "Tenifer", don't open that can of rotten worms-- and you are mistakenly off the mark. Tenifer is not what your eyeball sees on the slide. Even the bare Tenifer'd surface was covered up with a black finish. Tenifer is a trademark name for a metal treatment process that is a very common steel treatment, just like Charmin is to toilet paper--- things can be treated using the same process here in the US, just without the trade name.
My G41 has the new, so called "delicate" finish. Don't have 10K rounds through it yet (more like 5000), but have 1000+ holster presentations, (competition and dry fire). Plan on Cerakoting it when (if) the finish starts to show any significant wear. So far its pretty much as new.
My older Glock pistols finish is holding up quite nicely. The newest Glock I have, a Glock 34 gen 3, does show surface scratches easily but it doesn't bother me much. If I ever would do an aftermarket refinish I would try out Robar. It looks quite solid and I've heard good feedback on it.
I like my Robar finish. I don't shoot a whole lot, maybe 500 rounds a year or so. After 5 years of everyday carry in a hybrid holster, there is a little bit of wear on the rear of the slide. BFD. Still very easy to clean and looks good.
Holster design and materials, and how tight it is, will affect where it rubs on the gun. Leather can be more abrasive than Kydex or other polymers. The factory Glock combat holsters are cheap and soft on the finish. Kydex can be quite hard enough to scratch.
Actually my Kydex holsters do not wear on the slide, but the exercise is the main goal. More abrasive is coming from expended gun powder than anything else, so far not alot of alternate finishes that meet or exceed the need.
Kydex is pretty soft. I shoot thousands of rounds a month for training, and my G22 is usually in my kydex holster. Thousands of draws and the pistol is only showing wear by the corner near the barrel. When I train in the rain/mud, I just wash it out with a hose.
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