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Old 11-15-2011, 08:01   #926
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I always planned to get my CCW permit, but the following incident made me get off my rear and finally do it.

I got mugged in March 2009.

Met a guy at the casino who helped me win around $80, he asked me for a ride and I just figured why not because he helped me win. I was too nice for my own good and even though my gut gave a me a bad feeling right off the bat, I took the guy where he needed to go.

During the incident I also had my best friend of 13 years with me (a female).

When I dropped the guy off where he needed to go, he got out of the car and came up to my driver side window and asked if I had change for a $20. I rolled down my window, opened my wallet and he tried to grab it. I had the wallet gripped with one hand while he tried to use both, in the process blows were exchanged and he of course had the advantage with me being sitting down inside my car and him standing outside. I kept throwing punches at him until he threatened to shoot then I just let go of my wallet. I never saw a gun, but wasn't going to take a chance.

Honestly I think the guy got the worst of the exchange. I ended up with a broken pair of glasses, and a good black eye. I think I busted him open from either his nose or lip though, because I had a good amount of blood running down the inside of my door and I wasn't the one bleeding.

Though I don't consider it "funny" in the least that the incident happened. I found out after I let my wallet go and called the cops I found everything that was in my wallet outside my car door. My drivers license, bank card were outside my door and any cash I had was in my pants pocket. So the guy got away with about a 3 month old wallet of mine and some business cards.

About a month before this incident I had just bought my first gun too. A Taurus 24/7 OSS/DS 9mm. Found out by reading Missouri law about a week after the incident that I could have carried the gun fully loaded in my glove compartment without a CCW permit. I still doubt I would have used the gun that night, but in my eyes it was a good thing to know.

Finally got around to taking the CCW course in the end of September following my incident and got my permit November 9th 2009. I've never left home without a firearm since and I never will.

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Old 11-15-2011, 21:27   #927
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The event that caused me to finally get a carry permit was this: I moved to New York, and shortly after Hillary Clinton was elected. There goes the neighborhood, I figured.

Seriously though, I felt no need to carry - always in fairly low risk areas, maintaining a safe lookout, plus I'm OK with my hands/feet. I found that in NY, you basically have to be CCW permitted in order to own and transport a pistol, so I went through their costly and time-consuming process.
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Old 11-18-2011, 09:25   #928
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Let's see... I work for a living with convicted violent felons who eventually finish their time and walk out among us. They (most) can read and use telephone books (as well as the internet) Getting an inmate (he used to "collect" with a sawed-off shotgun when he was on the street) disciplined for misconduct 90 days before release was my defining moment.
As I learned more about the second amendment and our national history I came to the conviction the founders of our republic believed an armed citizenry is the best defense against tyranny. They were correct.

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Old 11-18-2011, 19:32   #929
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Originally Posted by kimber6 View Post
I work in real estate so I am in empty homes all the time with people I don't know. I have had some very sketchy situations so I carry 24/7.
A good friend's wife is a principal in real estate and had a couple of scary episodes showing properties before she decided to thigh-carry a Glock G-26.

I wonder how many female real estate agents are packing. The NRA or some other pro-Second Amendment group ought to conduct a credible survey about the need for professional women like her (and others, of course) to protect themselves in this day and age of undocumented, buzzed, paroled, crazed, etc ... perpetrators among us.
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Old 11-19-2011, 16:22   #930
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me and a friend were walking to the store one day in philly, i went into the store and he went to the side of the store to take a leak.

i came out of the store with our drinks and he comes flying pass me damn near knocked me down and while confused when i turned to look onto the side of the store their was a guy with a gun who started firing at my friend, my friend ended up taking one in the back of the head and the guy would have shot me if the gun hand not of jammed on him...

that was the first time i'd ever seen anyone die so horribly right in front of me, i literally couldn't move, i watched as he shaked and his eye rolled in his head, i watched him choke on his blood as he coughed it up and the blood pour from his head, i watched as his father grabbed his dying soon screaming and yelling for help and their was nothing anyone could do...

i later found out the guy was trying to rob him but he didn't have any money, i was the one with the money and it was my decision to go to the store, my treat...

the crazy part is i've always been around guns growing up, having and uncle in the marines who was a nam vet, guns weren't anything new to me but he tough us how to use and respect them and i never once thought about owning and carrying a gun until that day when i realized i could have saved my friends life...

the guy ended getting arrested and is now doing life and i carry EVERYWHERE!

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Old 11-19-2011, 16:52   #931
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For me, there wasn't a defining moment. It was what my mom, dad, and brother did. Firearms are, to my family, an integral part of American life. They belong every bit as much as the ballot and the churches of varying faiths. For coyotes, pop cans, or bad people, a gun ought to always be at hand.
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Old 11-21-2011, 20:16   #932
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beeen robbed twice and was shot at riding down highway on my hog.
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Old 11-22-2011, 15:02   #933
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My county became shall issue so applied and received a permit. No other reason than that, thank goodness.
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Old 11-23-2011, 19:03   #934
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Last April (2006), I nearly became a stabbing victim in a Wal-Mart parking lot, and that was my wakeup call that I am responsible for my own safety and well being.

I strongly believe in the right to self defense, and the fact that the cops can't protect you all the time. Another thing I believe in is that criminals don't only hang around the dirtier parts of town, some of the more "safer" places can be prime targets for bad guys, so I'm always armed at all waking hours.
I wear my Glock all the time i'm awake as well. That is just one way to get use to carrying. Carry should be automatic not something you have to think about. Should you find yourself in a situation where you have to pull your gun, your mind doesnt need to be thinking about if you have your weapon or not. My defining moment occured at a Seattle bus stop. I was waiting for my bus when these 3 thugs walked right up too this dude and without warning just started pounding on him. They beat him uncouncious and broke 5 bones in his face. I was helpless to help the guy. And it could have been ME! I am a disabled Vet with a partial foot amputation and a prostetic eye, so I felt really vulnerable. So I bought my Glock and got my CCW a month later. Now I shoot twice a week, am taking gun classes and I also bought a Mossbeerg for truck and home. There has been an increase in home invasions and I want to share some minerals with anyone who decides to make me a victum. Minerals=Lead

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Old 11-25-2011, 22:46   #935
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I've been fortunate enough to never have my life directly threatened. But I know how the world is (evil), and I never want to be unable to protect the the ones I love or myself.
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Old 11-26-2011, 08:51   #936
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I always had a gun. However, A few years ago, there was an attempt to steal my ATV (All Terrain Vehicle) from my property. Long story short, the LEO got there on time and was able to catch one of the two thieves (BG). The BG was put to jail for about six months. The detective working on this case told me that they had questioned the BG and he confessed to the crime. As per the BG's report, they (BGs) had followed me home from where I was riding. Once they knew where i lived, they decided to make there move the next day when I went to work.

So I asked myself what if they had decided to make there move while I got home or on my way home? What if they had a gun? Next morning I was on the phone requesting a CCW Application.

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Old 11-27-2011, 22:38   #937
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Sorry to hear that, man. That must've been really horrible to deal with. How come the guy was released or isn't doing life at the very least? That sucks!
oh he's in jail they caught the guy about a week later and it turned out to be a guy i was in high school with... smdh
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Old 12-08-2011, 17:58   #938
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The whole Connecticut home invasion, rape, and burning murder thing of the Doctor and his family really affected me. I have an 11 year old girl who looks remarkeably like that poor child in that incident.
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Old 12-19-2011, 06:55   #939
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My story is not nearly as moving, but it makes sense non the less. I have read the Constitution and understand the events that transpired before this country was formed, but never really believed that the times we live in are dangerously similar to the way things were then.

About 5 years ago, I was working for a solid conservative Congressman in Washington DC. During my time there, I was able to see first hand how terribly mixed up our country is and how quickly our rights (particularly the 2nd Amendment) can be taken away from us. We are never more than 4 years away from being prohibited to live the way we do today. I once saw a signature line from a poster on this forum that showed a picture of a man holding a sign at a DC rally, it stated "We've come unarmed.......this time". Firearms are the ultimate check and balance...and they are worthless unless they are readily available.

Thats why I carry......because our freedoms are eroding, the world is becoming increasingly unstable and I'm not going to rely on someone else to protect my family.
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Old 12-21-2011, 19:02   #940
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Thats why I carry......because our freedoms are eroding, the world is becoming increasingly unstable and I'm not going to rely on someone else to protect my family.

One of the most well put and true statements i have read on here.
I had thought about getting my ccw for a while and never did it. Well one day i was in a convenience store and while waiting in line a guy got mad because someone behind skipped in front of and he threatened to go to his truck and get his gun. That night i called and set up my ccw class.
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Old 12-22-2011, 11:46   #941
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I purchased my first handgun for home defense and sport shooting. Took my CPL class in July of 2011. Never went down and applied for the permit.

An angry customer calls me in September of 2011, mad because I removed his vehicle off of his auto insurance policy per HIS REQUEST, later that day his daughter was in an accident with the vehicle, and he is being held responsible for 100% of the damages. He threatened to come up and bust out my business windows. I ran an internet search on him, found out he has had and STILL has a PPO for stalking active against him. Fast forward to that night, I am sitting out on my front porch when guess who drives by my house, TWICE...

the next day I went downtown and filed for my license, been carrying everyday since.
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Old 01-17-2012, 20:49   #942
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Alday Family Massacre

This horrible family massacre occurred on May 14, 1973 in Donalsonville, Georgia. I remember hearing about it in the news while in high school, and it happened over 100 miles from my hometown. I never really paid much attention to the incident at that time, but for whatever reason the sad story stuck in my memory.

Two unrelated personal events not associated with the Alday massacre had a lasting impact on me. I've had a part-time job in high school working in a small mom & pop grocery store. After the owner was nearly killed by two punks using an axe, I began thinking about personal safety. The two young men thought they had killed the owner and threw him in the meat locker. The good news is that he lived through the ordeal as he was only knocked unconscious. Worked as a bank teller during summer break back in 1976, and it got robbed after I had left to go back to college. The two robbers threatened to kill all of the bank personnel during the holdup. Fortunately no one was hurt. That left a negative impression on me about how easy someone else can take your life.

Whenever I'm in a hurry leaving my house and don't feel like carrying, I simply recall the Alday Family Massacre. It then becomes an easy decision to go back and pick up some type of protection.

If you are not familar with the story, one can google the Alday Family Massacre for the details. Several books have been written about the unfortunate incident. It is really sad that most Georgia residents are not even aware that the killings took place. May 14, 1973 is certainly one of the dark stains in Georgia history, and it should not be forgotten. Those that do remember the Alday deaths have lost faith in the Georgia judicial system to a degree. I certainly have and that's why I carry.
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Old 01-21-2012, 10:47   #943
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The horrible massacre at McDonald's, in San Diego. I've never gotten over my horror of that unthinkable tragedy. I made the commitment to learn what was needed, learn the laws, practice until I felt comfortable and capable, and then did the deed. I've never needed to respond, and I hope I NEVER do! But, just being prepared to defend myself, my family, and other innocents, makes all that effort more than worthwhile, both then, and now. For what it's worth..... Take care, and God Bless!

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Old 01-26-2012, 05:33   #944
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I have heard rumors that the gun control people want to eliminate pistols and CCW in NY for years. So I figured get it now, before its to late. I live in a pretty crime free area, way out in the country. I used to carry my ar15 when out in the woods cutting wood or whatever, but its usually in the truck or on the 4wheeler and that doesnt do much good there, so having my glock 20 on my side in case of a wild animal attack is the better option. You never know, the one time you might need that glock and dont have it you might not live to tell a bout it. So since its my right living in the USA I carry my glock 27. I hope I never ever have to pull it and use it on a person, but if I do, I will do it without hesitation, because I can carry it, I do carry it and I train alot with it. I shoot almost every day. Im not a doomsdayer or anything, but you just never know when it might come in handy.
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:19   #945
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:38   #946
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I never had a defining moment, more of a natural progression. Most of my family are LEOs, lawyers or something in between, and on top of that my grandfather is a hunter. Guns, and their safe use, has been instilled in me since I was a small child.

When if came to picking my major in college, I choose criminal justice. The combination of my fathers police work, two shootings, and the information I acquired in school, led me to realize you can have the best police force in the world, but that doesn't matter much if you are sitting at a stop light and are getting car jacked. The response time will never be quick enough to help you. I choose not to be at the mercy of someone elses protection.

This has been further reenforced by recently becoming an uncle. I dont even have kids of my own, but I know I would do anything to protect my nephew.
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Old 02-07-2012, 11:13   #947
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Old 02-14-2012, 15:12   #948
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When Wisconsin FINALLY passed the CCL bill I immediately applied for mine.
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Old 02-16-2012, 20:14   #949
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I absolutely obliterated my right knee back in late 2010. 2 surgeries and almost a year of therapy and im still at it trying to get it back to a level where it should be. one swift strike to that knee and i will be incapacitated for some time. so with one more sufficent blow to my knee im looking at a requirment for a complete knee replacment. so for me peice of mind i carry. i will most likley never need to resort to my glock but if i have to i like knowing its there. my knee injury seriously affects my ability to get out of a sticky situation. atleast an unarmed situation.
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Old 02-23-2012, 08:29   #950
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Way back in 1974 I got my first concealed carry permit. My job required I have a weapon. I wasn't carrying all the time until 2008 when I was in a very uncomfortable position with 8 young "gangsta" types. I managed to keep it from becoming violent and at that point I realized I was a fat old man who couldn't run or fight his way outta a paper bag. Next day to the Sherrifs Dept, filed a report of the incident and picked up the carry permit pack. Joined the modern world, retired the 6 shooter and got me a high cap 9mm. About a year later my wife decided she wouldn't be an easy target and got her permit too. My EDC is a G30 and wife's EDC is a G26.
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