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Old 08-09-2009, 13:51   #641
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I carry because it is the ultimate equalizer. My work takes me all over the US. Thankfully I have never had to defend myself with a firearm. When conceal permits became available, I got one. Kind of hard to protect yourself when you pistol is locked in your truck. I was always bothered by the vague laws and what would happen if my truck was ever searched and the pistol wasn't in plain sight. Now everything is legal. Since the election of the "Obomination", I have been steadily aquiring firearms and ammo, not to mention non perisible food and water. Make no mistake.....It's coming.
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Old 08-09-2009, 14:02   #642
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I carry because it is the ultimate equalizer. My work takes me all over the US. Thankfully I have never had to defend myself with a firearm. When conceal permits became available, I got one. Kind of hard to protect yourself when you pistol is locked in your truck. I was always bothered by the vague laws and what would happen if my truck was ever searched and the pistol wasn't in plain sight. Now everything is legal. Since the election of the "Obomination", I have been steadily aquiring firearms and ammo, not to mention non perisible food and water. Make no mistake.....It's coming.
I get so preturbed when I'm traveling and have to lock up my protection because of going through IOWA. I shouldn't have to be unprotected at ANY time...just because it's my right as a citizen of the USA
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Old 08-09-2009, 18:45   #643
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First, thanks to all who have posted in this amazing thread. Finding GT has been a great education. I'm very fortunate not to have a personal bad story to share.

No specific event for my CCW. My wife was very determined no guns in the house. She was concerned about kids and the storage in our home. This from the women who, when she was younger was robbed and mugged at knife and gun point several times in Boston. Then about 4 years ago her friend who was leaving a tennis house a couple miles away in a marginal area downtown was robbed at gun point by a couple young "ganstas" who debated killing her as she lay faced down in a parking lot. Thankfully they didn't shoot her. Those events still wouldn't convince her to change her mind about a gun.

Hurricane Katrina's aftermath finally allowed me to convince her we needed the abiltiy to defend ourselves. She agreed at that point a hand gun was ok. I didn't act immediately, in fact I let the issue lapse until a few months ago when one of my friends asked if I was interested in attending a CPL class.

I reflected on the local economic situation (bad and getting worse) in the greater Detroit and SE Michigan and decided I would be more comfortable knowing I had a license to CCW to protect my family and or friends. My friend was unable to take the class - so I took it and got my CPL in July.

Purchased my G23 a couple weeks before the license arrived. I want to add another soon, perhaps a G27 ...!
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Old 08-18-2009, 09:56   #644
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Susprised at literary references?

[[ Please tolerate this diversion as an aside, and in response to a good poster who was pleasantly surprised at an obscure reference from "Les Miserables".

Fully understanding such preconceptions, please continue to notice that gun carriers come from all walks of life, and may even balance towards being the more -- not the less -- educated of citizens (especially taking into account the sad limits of mere academic education).

Do not be surprised to find poets, playwrights, graduate level educators and other folks of academic force and acclaim on the side of personal rights, and in these pages.

We ain't necessarily the stereotypical uncivilized hillbilly's that have been painted by those opposing the issue. (Ok, heck ...I admit it .. I am! But a lot of these folks are not.) ]]

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Old 08-18-2009, 10:50   #645
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Oh yeah, defining moments...

Wasn't really one moment. Grew up in some rough places, so I knew violence was possible. Personal safety is always a question. Had a CCW a long time ago, but moved out of that state.

Then, I lived for a while in a state with an uncivilized outlook, where regular people were not trusted. Except for police, only bad guys generally carried guns. Slightly scary.

Then, moved to a more civilized state, where regular people were expected to behave like adults. Very refreshing. Good guys can legally carry. I felt safer.

I figured if I was going to benefit from that safety, I should contribute to it, so came back to the fold.
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Old 08-19-2009, 11:03   #646
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I am getting older(59) and not in the best of shape. Bad knees and can't run much. So decided I need an equalizer in a Glock 39 (45 GAP).
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Old 08-19-2009, 19:54   #647
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my defining moment......

1. 911
2. when I realised that you cant depend on someone else to save your butt.
3. When I became a Father.

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Old 08-29-2009, 14:44   #648
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I got my CCW license:

1. To exercise a right... (political statement)

2. So I would not have to worry about how to carry guns, ammo, etc. when driving to the range.

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Old 09-01-2009, 08:00   #649
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Two years, almost 650 posts, 65,605 views later...

I want to again thank Patronus for starting this thread on 8/31/2007.

Little did we know when we made this a sticky how popular it would be.

Thanks also to everyone who've shared their stories!

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Old 09-03-2009, 19:52   #650
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9-11 got me thinking about it. A year later, my family and I were nearly wiped out by a crazy trucker who stalked us on a remote SC highway for several miles. I got the permit a few months later.
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Old 09-10-2009, 18:44   #651
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Never owned a handgun before....the Beretta and Benelli shotguns were for HD besides the last few decades of hunting waterfowl and pheasants.

My friends and relatives were taking the CCW and I procrastinated until one night I had an encounter downtown. On occassion, my hobby but soon to be profession takes me downtown at night. I was being followed by a group of drunks or drug addicts who kept calling out profanities for me to stop. I was lucky enough to walk real fast to a busy street and get away.

Even with CCW, I would flee again and try to be more aware of my surroundings, however you never know....
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Never owned a handgun before....the Beretta and Benelli shotguns were for HD besides the last few decades of hunting waterfowl and pheasants.

My friends and relatives were taking the CCW and I procrastinated until one night I had an encounter downtown. On occassion, my hobby but soon to be profession takes me downtown at night. I was being followed by a group of drunks or drug addicts who kept calling out profanities for me to stop. I was lucky enough to walk real fast to a busy street and get away.

Even with CCW, I would flee again and try to be more aware of my surroundings, however you never know....
Glad you made it outta there OK. Thanks for sharing.

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Old 09-12-2009, 16:45   #653
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Itís been over a year since I purchased my first firearm. It was picked up on 9/9/08 after the required 5 day waiting period; I had applied for my CWL at the time but was not yet in possession. I took the class on 8/14/08 and sent the application in on 8/22/08. I started going to the range weekly and using rentals a couple of weeks before attending the class.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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To this day I am unable to answer the question posed by those around me who learned of my change of stance on firearms. Prior to July of 2008 I had a very strong opinion on firearms that is totally contrary to the one I hold now. I was never anti-gun, just didnít want them in my house. I had no problems with others owning or carrying. I do not recall reading any stories or being informed of anyoneís personal incident that would have affected my opinion either. I have absolutely no clue what made me change my mind in such a short time span. One month I was maintaining my ďthere will be no guns in this houseĒ and the next I was researching which gun to buy. <o:p></o:p>
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For a while it was very troubling to my husband who insisted something happened to me and I was refusing to talk about it. His assumption was that someone threatened me in some way and I didnít want to worry anyone thus I opted to obtain the means to defend myself. Taking in consideration that Iíve rarely changed my mind for as long as heís known me and the fact that I plan nearly everything I do to the most minute details, it was not irrational for him to be puzzled and question my motives. It took a bit before he believed that nothing had happened and there were no motives other than the realization that we were responsible for our safety.<o:p></o:p>
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Old 09-12-2009, 17:01   #654
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Defining Moments - What made YOU decide to CCW?

Defining moments? I think I have several.....

I was carjacked Halloween night of 1994 in Sacramento, CA. Car was taken at gunpoint, and was found six days later two miles away. Needless to say the perpetrators attempted to get me to go with them, but I basically refused to do so in fear of being shot. I'm sure if I went with them then I would not be here today.

I worked a CO in the state of Nevada for a while, and started carrying concealed at that time. Yes, in 1996-1998 the policy of the Nevada Department of Prisons(later changed to Nevada DOC) was that this was not permitted by policy, but was allowed by Nevada Revised Statutes. I didn't care about that. I remember walking through a grocery store in Reno, NV with my wife and daughter, and seeing a former inmate from the prison. He
looked at me, looked down at the larger than normal fanny pack on my waist, and turned down a different aisle. Yes, he knew I was packing, and did not want any issues. Good thing for him.

Pursuit suspect was found hiding in the back yard next door to my home. I was walking outside one morning to take my daughter to school, and was told to get back inside by the highway patrol. At that point I was went inside and waited for him to come over into my back yard, but apparently he was arrested in time. He almost got Glocked.

Those are pretty much the things that have shaped me to who I am today. I have carried a firearm for most of my adult life, even when it was not allowed in that particular state(yes the statute of limitations is up by now).
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Old 09-17-2009, 17:26   #655
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1.I'm a probation officer.

2.Back in 2005, while working as a meat cutter at a local grocery store, two masked robbers stormed in. One of the gunmen came back to where I was and stuck a glock in my face and ordered me to the ground.
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Old 09-17-2009, 23:00   #656
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Several reasons:

1) Being in a wheelchair limits my options in an altercation.

2) Too many gunshots in the "nice" neighborhood where I live.

3) Economy and current President.

and most importantly,

4) LOVING the smiles of my wife and daughter and keeping them safe so I can continue to enjoy them for a LONG time.
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Old 09-18-2009, 14:47   #657
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a friend and I were jumped, beaten, and robbed by a group of 5 people while I was changing a flat tire on my car late at night in a deserted parking lot.

The story:
My friend and I stopped at said parking lot due to a flat tire. I was in the process of changing the tire on my lexus. My friend was hanging out by the trunk area, when we saw an older white BMW that was 'ghetto pimped' out. The car stopped in the middle of the lot about 30 feet away from us. 5 males and one female got out of the car and approached us. We had no weapons save for the tire iron I was holding in my hands.

When they were about ten feet away, one of them asked if I had seen so and so and when I turned my head to answer "I did't know what they were talking about," 2 of them rushed me and I caught it out of the corner of my eye. It was too late tho and before I could bring the tire iron up to defend myself they were already on me. I accidentally dropped the tire iron and started to fight off the two attackers with my hands (tire iron was pretty much useless since it was a "phone booth" fight at this point). I was struggling with the attacker who was in front of me and was trying to grapple me and throw me to the ground. I threw a couple low punches (I used to box) and I heard him moan in pain after I connected a couple times and pushed him away from me. I knew attacker number 2 was to my left. I turned to face him and thats when everything went black.

I still remember waking up as if slowly coming out of a fog to the sounds of shouts and curses and realizing that my attackers were now kicking me as I lay on the ground. I shielded my face and neck as best I could until the beating stopped finally. At that point I felt hands slip into my pocket and snatch my wallet, phone, and car keys. I laid on the ground for a minute and my head and vision was very fuzzy. The left side of my face was numb and felt wet, which upon touching I realized was blood. I looked around for my buddy and he was approx 25 yds away and walking back holding his shoulder. He walked back up and immediately noticed my face. He said the area just below my left eye looks like "hamburger." I then noticed he had blood all over the shoulder he was holding.

All in all, when the cops showed up and we finally pieced together what happened. When I got rushed, the 3 others rushed my buddy who turned and tried to outrun them. He didn't get far as they pushed him to the ground and beat him and one stabbed him with a small pocketknife in the shoulder. I received the worst of it though, when I was knocked unconcious it was because one of the BG's had picked up the tire iron I dropped and when I fended off attacker number one, number two hit me squarely in the head right below and to the outside of my left eye. I was very lucky to not have lost my vision or had severe head trauma.

In the aftermath of this incident, the perps were never caught and I still have a visible scar on the left side of my face on the eye socket. It's not very noticeable luckily since its in the eye socket and the lines around me eye conceal it. However, I can still feel the scar there whenever I put my finger there.

What did I lose? My wallet, a couple credit cards, $20, a set of car keys, and my view on the world as a secure place. The city I live in is a relatively quiet city. There are much worse areas in South Florida, but it doesn't mean it can't happen in nice areas.

This happened a few years ago, but I just recently picked up my CCW after putting it off. I did carry a gun in my cars glove compartment after that incident though.

What could I have done differently? Well to be honest I'm not sure. Letting the BG get that close to me was mistake number 1, dropping my weapon was mistake number 2. In the end I could go on and on about what I coulda shoulda woulda done, but I take it as a lesson and have a scar to remind me to never let that happen again.
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Old 09-19-2009, 12:07   #658
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I've had a Mossberg 12ga for home defense for several years. I guess I just never realized that I needed to have protection outside my home until my son was born two years ago. The day (or night-12:06am) he showed up it just hit me out of the blue. Honestly, before that I didn't have any idea that is was legal to carry a firearm. Once I figured that out I felt like an idiot for not knowing earlier.

In a nutshell...my new son is the reason.
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Old 09-22-2009, 13:02   #659
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After being shot once, stabbed once, and jumped in a parking lot by 2 mexicans at a Meijer at 3 am. I decided that's not happening again. After I turned 21 I took the class and I'm just waiting on the permit.
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Old 09-22-2009, 19:04   #660
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There is no clear cut line that make me say "hey, this is why i choose to defend myself." To make a long story short, WATCH THE NEWS!!
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