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Old 10-16-2009, 17:13   #241
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I just now caught this thread. As far as a .22LR goes for SD/HD, if it is what you have on hand or can afford, use it. As a newly married student in seminary I worked as a security guard at night in a shipyard. I usually had no real problems getting intruders to leave the property. There was however one particularly bad incident during which several intruders opened fire on me. At the time, I had very little money. I bought and carried a good folding knife and a Ruger Mk. I loaded with HP ammo. I practiced shooting rats behind the work buildings. Since they seldom sat still, it forced me to get used to shooting fast. I got pretty good at hitting the things out to maybe 20-25 yds. Up close I think it would have been very effective on anyone who might have come at me. The pistol was what I planned to use if necessity demanded it. If the Ruger didn't settle things, I figured to use the knife. It is amazing what one can do with a good knife.

Both my wife and my daughters have learned to shoot handguns and rifles. My wife has learned to use even a .45 ACP effectively. She is comfortable with the Glock G-22 that we currently use for HD. My daughters are not wild about handguns, but both of them are extremely capable with a .22 LR revolver or pistol. A .22 LR handgun is not the ultimate SD/HD weapon. But it is a good choice for many who need such a weapon and who for whatever reason find a larger caliber weapon not to be an option. JMHO. Sincerely. Brucev.
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Old 10-17-2009, 12:09   #242
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I will say this if you do not have a .40 caliber pistol(Which Walmart has a plentiful supply of ammo) say you have a 9mm, 380, 357 magnum or .45 acp Walmarts for many miles in my area have NO ammo to sell. Sure you can pay double price elsewhere, if you can find it but when is the next time you can afford to shoot a centerfire ammo gun? Its a drought out there, so .22's are the only economical ammo anymore...
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Old 10-17-2009, 16:27   #243
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I will say this if you do not have a .40 caliber pistol(Which Walmart has a plentiful supply of ammo) ....... .22's are the only economical ammo anymore...

You cannot buy any .40 at walmarts in south central FL.

It's unreal. .22 is all I shoot anymore.
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Old 10-18-2009, 12:29   #244
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All we have is oceans of .40 caliber plus some .22's. Ocasionally we get some 9mm or .45 acp and some .38 specials. No .380 to be seen period. Once ammo production gets ramped up further look out! Sales galore I hope...
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Old 10-18-2009, 17:12   #245
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When I travel out of town my wife prefers my Ruger MKII with Tactical Solutions PAC LITE upper as her primary weapon of choice. It is very accurate and very reliable.

Usually loaded with Stingers, she is very comfortable and capable with this weapon even though she has a .38 snub she shoots quite well. I think the main reason she prefers the .22 is because since we live out in the county there are multiple targets of opportunity that come up, not just bad guys. She is more likely to have to deal with snakes, dogs, coyotes, raccoons, 'possums, and such, and she has dispatched at least one of each at variuos times.

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Old 10-26-2009, 22:46   #246
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My first gun was given to me in 1982 (I was under 21 years old at that time) by a family member. It was a Colt Trooper in .22LR. I loaded it with .22LR CCI Stingers for my first HD gun.


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Old 10-27-2009, 07:00   #247
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My first gun was given to me in 1982 (I was under 21 years old at that time) by a family member. It was a Colt Trooper in .22LR. I loaded it with .22LR CCI Stingers for my first HD gun.
I am putting money aside to buy .22 revolvers for my daughters (the oldest is 10) I would love for them to have a quality steel DA .22lr revolver with a 3" to 4" barrel like the Colt Trooper, the Ruger SP-101 or the S&W Model 63. Unfortunately all have been discontinued except for the S&W 63 but that only comes in a 5" barrel. S&W also re-introduced the Model 18 with the 4"bbl but at an MSRP of over $1,000 I rather take my chances on the used market. I like them to have something that will last several lifetimes, and they can uses as a trainer, for home defense in a pinch, and something they can hopefully teach my grandkids to shoot with.

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Old 10-27-2009, 07:11   #248
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I am putting money aside to buy .22 revolvers for my daughters (the oldest is 10) I would love for them to have a quality steel DA .22lr revolver with a 3" to 4" barrel like the Colt Trooper, the Ruger SP-101 or the S&W Model 63. Unfortunately all have been discontinued except for the S&W 63 but that only comes in a 5" barrel. S&W also re-introduced the Model 18 with the 4"bbl but at an MSRP of over $1,000 I rather take my chances on the used market. I like them to have something that will last several lifetimes, and they can uses as a trainer, for home defense in a pinch, and something they can hopefully teach my grandkids to shoot with.
Good luck on the second hand search, people hang on to those little gems.
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Old 11-03-2009, 14:37   #249
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.22 HP on target > .45 that misses.
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Old 11-03-2009, 14:43   #250
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no. at least,not as MAIN,but i keep my ruger 22-45 beside my G22 in my fast access vault under the bed LOADED with the trigger safety on.

racoons or varmints scratching my backdoor will get a pea as welcome gift.


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Old 11-04-2009, 13:41   #251
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no. at least,not as MAIN,but i keep my ruger 22-45 beside my G22 in my fast access vault under the bed LOADED with the trigger safety on.

racoons or varmints scratching my backdoor will get a pea as welcome gift.


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Is that the 22/45 slabside with the 3 dot fixed sights???
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Old 11-04-2009, 18:23   #252
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Almost 3 years since this thread was started and it's still staying pretty civil and on topic. I think that's a record of some sort.
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Old 11-04-2009, 19:09   #253
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I would not feel to under gunned with a .22 at indoor ranges. I would go for head shots and shoot it dry!
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Old 11-04-2009, 19:12   #254
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Is that the 22/45 slabside with the 3 dot fixed sights???

yes. it's near brand new, i use my target stainless bull barrel 5.5 at the range most of the time.
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:34   #255
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I think good shot placement could do some serious damage in a HD scenario. One of my best friends is a Homocide Detective in NJ. He says that the vast amount of people he sees shot are from .22LR. #1 assassination tool.

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I sure would hate to be shot by any of them.

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I think good shot placement could do some serious damage in a HD scenario. One of my best friends is a Homocide Detective in NJ. He says that the vast amount of people he sees shot are from .22LR. #1 assassination tool.

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hhhmmmm.nice....the second pic with the white marble grips...veeeery nice.
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hhhmmmm.nice....the second pic with the white marble grips...veeeery nice.
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Old 11-06-2009, 01:18   #258
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I think the matter of defense and the .22 depends on the range. Up close, the bad guy may not realize he's been hurt bad until he has hurt you worse. From a distance though, with a scoped rifle, I put a whole bunch of faith in the .22 LR. If you have time and room enough to properly aim, a quick double pop from a .22 rifle can produce a wound channel very similar to that of a 9mm HP. 2 fast rounds to just about anywhere in the neck will take the bad guy out of the fight. If you have time to aim for a major joint, like an ankle, knee or shoulder, the assailant is nullified. 2 fast shots to the groin will likely cause him to wet his pants for the last time.
In the house, my Glock 19 is boss. At any range from 10 to 100 yards, I trust my .22 rifles to prove any ballistic points that may need to be proven.
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:43   #259
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Well said!
Not sure were I saw this video, but it was a scoped .22 rifle penetration test.

The target, a frozen turkey from a Supermarket (so called thawed out!) 250 yds distance.

The cartridge was a Remington .22LR Hi Velocity, that it was hit at that range was amazing to me! It was dead prior to this test. (Brit humor)

On initial examination of the target, said turkey, hole was seen at front, then one at the rear, total penetration, the bag of innards had not been removed, and was still frozen, and the wee 40g bullet went right through it also.
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Not sure were I saw this video, but it was a scoped .22 rifle penetration test.

The target, a frozen turkey from a Supermarket (so called thawed out!) 250 yds distance.

The cartridge was a Remington .22LR Hi Velocity, that it was hit at that range was amazing to me! It was dead prior to this test. (Brit humor)

On initial examination of the target, said turkey, hole was seen at front, then one at the rear, total penetration, the bag of innards had not been removed, and was still frozen, and the wee 40g bullet went right through it also.

As I recall, the turkey was also wrapped in clothing material to simulate fairly heavy clothing.

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