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Old 11-04-2009, 12:41   #251
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no. at least,not as MAIN,but i keep my ruger 22-45 beside my G22 in my fast access vault under the bed LOADED with the trigger safety on.

racoons or varmints scratching my backdoor will get a pea as welcome gift.


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Is that the 22/45 slabside with the 3 dot fixed sights???
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Old 11-04-2009, 17:23   #252
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Almost 3 years since this thread was started and it's still staying pretty civil and on topic. I think that's a record of some sort.
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Old 11-04-2009, 18:09   #253
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I would not feel to under gunned with a .22 at indoor ranges. I would go for head shots and shoot it dry!
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Old 11-04-2009, 18:12   #254
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Is that the 22/45 slabside with the 3 dot fixed sights???

yes. it's near brand new, i use my target stainless bull barrel 5.5 at the range most of the time.
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:34   #255
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I think good shot placement could do some serious damage in a HD scenario. One of my best friends is a Homocide Detective in NJ. He says that the vast amount of people he sees shot are from .22LR. #1 assassination tool.

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I sure would hate to be shot by any of them.

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Old 11-05-2009, 13:23   #256
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I think good shot placement could do some serious damage in a HD scenario. One of my best friends is a Homocide Detective in NJ. He says that the vast amount of people he sees shot are from .22LR. #1 assassination tool.

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I sure would hate to be shot by any of them.

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hhhmmmm.nice....the second pic with the white marble grips...veeeery nice.
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Old 11-05-2009, 13:34   #257
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hhhmmmm.nice....the second pic with the white marble grips...veeeery nice.
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Old 11-06-2009, 00:18   #258
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I think the matter of defense and the .22 depends on the range. Up close, the bad guy may not realize he's been hurt bad until he has hurt you worse. From a distance though, with a scoped rifle, I put a whole bunch of faith in the .22 LR. If you have time and room enough to properly aim, a quick double pop from a .22 rifle can produce a wound channel very similar to that of a 9mm HP. 2 fast rounds to just about anywhere in the neck will take the bad guy out of the fight. If you have time to aim for a major joint, like an ankle, knee or shoulder, the assailant is nullified. 2 fast shots to the groin will likely cause him to wet his pants for the last time.
In the house, my Glock 19 is boss. At any range from 10 to 100 yards, I trust my .22 rifles to prove any ballistic points that may need to be proven.
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Old 11-06-2009, 04:43   #259
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Well said!
Not sure were I saw this video, but it was a scoped .22 rifle penetration test.

The target, a frozen turkey from a Supermarket (so called thawed out!) 250 yds distance.

The cartridge was a Remington .22LR Hi Velocity, that it was hit at that range was amazing to me! It was dead prior to this test. (Brit humor)

On initial examination of the target, said turkey, hole was seen at front, then one at the rear, total penetration, the bag of innards had not been removed, and was still frozen, and the wee 40g bullet went right through it also.
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Not sure were I saw this video, but it was a scoped .22 rifle penetration test.

The target, a frozen turkey from a Supermarket (so called thawed out!) 250 yds distance.

The cartridge was a Remington .22LR Hi Velocity, that it was hit at that range was amazing to me! It was dead prior to this test. (Brit humor)

On initial examination of the target, said turkey, hole was seen at front, then one at the rear, total penetration, the bag of innards had not been removed, and was still frozen, and the wee 40g bullet went right through it also.

As I recall, the turkey was also wrapped in clothing material to simulate fairly heavy clothing.

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As I recall, the turkey was also wrapped in clothing material to simulate fairly heavy clothing.

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You are correct, I forgot that bit! It does give you a lot of respect for that small projectile though.
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You are correct, I forgot that bit! It does give you a lot of respect for that small projectile though.

I would never volunteer to be downrange of one...

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Old 11-06-2009, 06:31   #263
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a 22lr is better than nothing. i see nothing wrong with using it for the home. putting many rounds on target will do the trick. many people have died from the 22lr. would a bigger gun do better? yes, it should. but i have seen many that have been shot with large cal handguns and still drove themself to the doctors. it comes down to shot placement, no matter the size of the gun.
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Old 11-06-2009, 12:40   #264
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I still wish I had a decent article on Aquila and their exotic rimfire rounds from the ultrafast hollowpoint to the 60 grain sss load
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Old 11-06-2009, 14:05   #265
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While a .22 IS better than nothing, and there is no doubt that it can kill a man.... but I for one am unwilling to stake my family's life on even the most reliable rimfire cartridge.
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Old 11-08-2009, 10:19   #266
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WOW, this thread is almost 3 years old!
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WOW, this thread is almost 3 years old!

...And like a fine wine, it continues to improve with age...

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Old 11-08-2009, 10:36   #268
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beeew...me..i like...where did you found this out???mhéhéhé, would you mind if i get a set???
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Old 11-08-2009, 13:08   #269
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...And like a fine wine, it continues to improve with age...

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And here is the three year summary for rimfire home defense....

Yes, no, maybe and look at my really cool stuff.
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And here is the three year summary for rimfire home defense....

Yes, no, maybe and look at my really cool stuff.



Be prepared to cut-and-paste that in another three years...

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Old 11-08-2009, 17:12   #271
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beeew...me..i like...where did you found this out???mhéhéhé, would you mind if i get a set???
I forget who the guy was, but I got them from a seller on Ebay who does custom grips. They were only $50.00.

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Old 11-09-2009, 08:07   #272
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And here is the three year summary for rimfire home defense....

Yes, no, maybe and look at my really cool stuff.
Actually I think the summary is:

.22LR for home defense is better than no gun at all.

If you are physically and financially able to you should use a bigger gun.

Look at my really cool stuff.
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Old 11-13-2009, 12:00   #273
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A 22 is for killing squirrels... but when the intruder is close enough you hit him over the head several times with the butt of the gun. You know why I use a 45... because they don't make a 46!
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My GF uses Stingers in her P-22. I've tried and tried to transition her to at least a .380 acp but the recoil scares her.

Conversely, she'll go trap shooting with me and handles 50 rounds of 12 ga just fine but I can't get her to switch to a 18" 870 for home defense. I just can't get the logic through to her .
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Old 11-13-2009, 18:54   #275
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Actually I think the diminutive .22 gives you a great excuse to empty the mag. More holes > bigger holes as far as lethality goes I would think.
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