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Old 06-01-2011, 17:22   #1051
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Spyd3r05, the quality of the transmissions will be limited by the quality of your radio system. We have very high quality Motorola XTS 5000 radios on a brand new digital system and the Earphone Connect Hawks sound fine. They sounded fine on our previous 800 MHz Motorola analog trunked system too. Like I said, 90% of our officers use the Earphone Connect Hawk. It works very well until the wind starts blowing. Then you just have to turn your back or shield the mic.

If you prefer a better system, I recommend a quality Motorola shoulder mic (assuming your radio system is Motorola) coupled with a listen-only earpiece. The shoulder mic is nice because you have a large object to grab under stress when you need to transmit instead of a tiny lapel mic. Also, most of them have better mics than the lapel counterparts.

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Old 06-01-2011, 17:32   #1052
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Definitely not. In my mind, the radio is my lifeline to backup and also allows me to be a lifeline to my fellow officers. Having it way down on my belt is nothing but a hindrance. There is NO WAY that you can hear radio transmissions as reliably and as clearly when the speaker is located down there.

I currently wear a listen-only earpiece and a multi-function shoulder mic (attached to my sternum). This setup lets me turn my volume down very low and still hear every nuance in the voices of the dispatchers and my fellow officers. I can also grab the mic and transmit very quickly without having to move my hands very far from centerline, remove the radio from its pouch, or crane my neck. In a noisy environment, I can turn the volume up and still hear just as clearly as I can in a quiet environment. The setup also allows me to go into quiet settings and keep from being a distraction to others. And there's the added officer safety benefit of suspects not hearing positive warrant hits over the speaker.

I just can't tell you how important I think earpieces are. If you get the right one, it can be worn for 12+ hours without discomfort. But if for some reason you choose not to use one (I can't imagine why), please at least use a remote mic. The belt radio only is a very bad and archaic method, in my opinion.
Different strokes for different folks, Phil.

Just because it doesn't suit you doesn't make it very bad, or archaic. Just different.

I have a remote Mic, and a nice expensive Surefire earpiece. They sit in my bag and get used a handful of times per year. If it jumps off and I'm in a critical incident, I'm not on a stupid radio.

If for some reason I absolutely do need to transmit RIGHT NOW, I can hit the xmit on the radio on my belt and folks can hear me clear as day. Or, if I need my hands free, I just hit my pizza button in a true emergency and I have an open mic anyway.

I'm super happy that your in love with your setup but remember... its your setup. Not everyone's.

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Old 06-03-2011, 02:59   #1053
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We were issued this earpiece with the clear pigtail coil thing that looks all secret service and it has a remote PTT mike we can clip to our collar to transmit. It worked well except you had to wind the cord under the shirt so it doesn't dangle everywhere. Some guys cut a hole in their shirt for the jack to the radio. It didn't get much use with me since I don't like cutting holes in my shirt.

Then we switched radios so it's a moot point. Gotta love government.
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Old 06-03-2011, 04:56   #1054
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Or, if I need my hands free, I just hit my pizza button in a true emergency and I have an open mic anyway.
I can agree to disagree. I just feel strongly about being one with your radio. And FWIW, ours don't work the way that you described (Motorola XTS 5000). Pressing the emergency button gives you a loud alert tone in dispatch that continues to beep every few seconds until your radio is turned off and back on again but it does not lock your mic open. You still have to press the mic button to Xmit. Stay safe.
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Old 06-03-2011, 07:04   #1055
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I can agree to disagree. I just feel strongly about being one with your radio. And FWIW, ours don't work the way that you described (Motorola XTS 5000). Pressing the emergency button gives you a loud alert tone in dispatch that continues to beep every few seconds until your radio is turned off and back on again but it does not lock your mic open. You still have to press the mic button to Xmit. Stay safe.
Our Kenwoods have the "man down" button. Press and hold and our mic stays keyed for 30 sec, after that it goes into a transmit/recieve cycle every 5 to 10 seconds.
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Old 06-03-2011, 10:22   #1056
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Definitely not. In my mind, the radio is my lifeline to backup and also allows me to be a lifeline to my fellow officers. Having it way down on my belt is nothing but a hindrance. There is NO WAY that you can hear radio transmissions as reliably and as clearly when the speaker is located down there.

I currently wear a listen-only earpiece and a multi-function shoulder mic (attached to my sternum). This setup lets me turn my volume down very low and still hear every nuance in the voices of the dispatchers and my fellow officers. I can also grab the mic and transmit very quickly without having to move my hands very far from centerline, remove the radio from its pouch, or crane my neck. In a noisy environment, I can turn the volume up and still hear just as clearly as I can in a quiet environment. The setup also allows me to go into quiet settings and keep from being a distraction to others. And there's the added officer safety benefit of suspects not hearing positive warrant hits over the speaker.

I just can't tell you how important I think earpieces are. If you get the right one, it can be worn for 12+ hours without discomfort. But if for some reason you choose not to use one (I can't imagine why), please at least use a remote mic. The belt radio only is a very bad and archaic method, in my opinion.

You wouldn't believe the way things are done a round here. With my last department, 60% or 70% of guys didn't wear a portable at all. The digital hi-band was pretty good, but the old low-band weighed a metric ****-ton and didn't work well at all. I didn't wear one through most of my FTO period, but did once I was on my own. I've been completely out of touch with dispatch more than once. Things were even worse for the guys in the county south of us.
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Old 06-03-2011, 10:39   #1057
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We were issued this earpiece with the clear pigtail coil thing that looks all secret service and it has a remote PTT mike we can clip to our collar to transmit. It worked well except you had to wind the cord under the shirt so it doesn't dangle everywhere. Some guys cut a hole in their shirt for the jack to the radio. It didn't get much use with me since I don't like cutting holes in my shirt.

Then we switched radios so it's a moot point. Gotta love government.
Have your tailor sew a button hole in to the shirt.

Our new radios have the earpiece jack in the speaker mic, but I had the holes sewn in to all of mine when we had the old radios...worked like a charm.
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Old 06-03-2011, 11:45   #1058
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I can agree to disagree. I just feel strongly about being one with your radio. And FWIW, ours don't work the way that you described (Motorola XTS 5000). Pressing the emergency button gives you a loud alert tone in dispatch that continues to beep every few seconds until your radio is turned off and back on again but it does not lock your mic open. You still have to press the mic button to Xmit. Stay safe.
Our XTS5000s and XTS2500s have the buttons (one orange, one purple) and neither one does a damn thing.
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Old 06-03-2011, 11:58   #1059
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Most modern portables are made entirely of "soft" keys. The buttons, despite color and position, can be programmed for any function. If you wanted to, you could make the number 7 key the transmit button, the PTT button the emergency key, and the 0 key the scan key. Functionality of the emergency button can also often be changed based on the radio programming and/or the system settings. For example, our new Harris radios require a 1.5 second press on the emergency button to activate, and then give you five seconds of air time, but that is all programmed...none of it is a "default."
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Old 06-03-2011, 16:03   #1060
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Some guys cut a hole in their shirt for the jack to the radio. It didn't get much use with me since I don't like cutting holes in my shirt.
No cutting required. Just take a few stitches out of the seem in the side of your shirt at the same height as the top of the radio, and then stitch the opening closed at the top and bottom so it doesn't unravel. You won't even be able to tell it's there. I wear my radio between 8:30 and 9:30 right where the wire comes out of my shirt.
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Old 06-03-2011, 20:33   #1061
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Thanks for the tip guys... but as I said, we switched to new county wide radios and those come with lapel mics, no more secret service earphones.
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Old 06-04-2011, 06:34   #1062
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Received my TMK in the mail yesterday, thanks for the tip guys!
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Old 06-04-2011, 15:25   #1063
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It's not a duty belt... but I finally put my EOTech on...

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Old 06-04-2011, 20:08   #1064
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Old 06-04-2011, 22:14   #1065
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Our XTS5000s and XTS2500s have the buttons (one orange, one purple) and neither one does a damn thing.
That's a programming issue. Most agencies and/or radio shops don't activate all of the features of current radios.
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I can agree to disagree. I just feel strongly about being one with your radio. And FWIW, ours don't work the way that you described (Motorola XTS 5000). Pressing the emergency button gives you a loud alert tone in dispatch that continues to beep every few seconds until your radio is turned off and back on again but it does not lock your mic open. You still have to press the mic button to Xmit. Stay safe.
I'm definitely one with my radio, but a remote mic is just more of a PITA for me. Our emergency button is programmed like JTipper's.

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Thanks for the tip guys... but as I said, we switched to new county wide radios and those come with lapel mics, no more secret service earphones.
Our new radios come with a Bluetooth remote PTT button/earpiece. I think I may give it a try. I should get mine on Tuesday. Now, BladeTech needs to hurry up and make me a radio holder!
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This is the new earpiece I am getting.

http://www.motorola.com/Business/US-...pieces/NTN2570

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I worry about the battery life of Bluetooth mics for a whole shift With the constant transmit and receiving that we do.
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I worry about the battery life of Bluetooth mics for a whole shift With the constant transmit and receiving that we do.
One of our guys is testing it and worked a 10 hour OT shift yesterday with lots of chatter. It survived the whole shift.
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Old 06-05-2011, 15:15   #1070
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Sounds good but how about us folk with 12 hr shifts normal time haha
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Sounds good but how about us folk with 12 hr shifts normal time haha
You are doomed.

I need to hit the equipment thread. I need some XTS2500 batteries for the wife.
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Old 06-05-2011, 16:06   #1072
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Oh well, Just picked up the earphone connection - Hawk set for my radio so its all good
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Old 06-05-2011, 19:30   #1073
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Okay, hopefully this is the last revision for awhile

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One of our guys is testing it and worked a 10 hour OT shift yesterday with lots of chatter. It survived the whole shift.
Cochese, check out www.freelinc.com . The battery on it last for multiple shifts, it is built like a tank, and the near field magnetic connection is much better than Bluetooth. I've been using one for two years now with fantastic results.
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Old 06-08-2011, 16:42   #1075
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This is the new earpiece I am getting.

http://www.motorola.com/Business/US-...pieces/NTN2570

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Looks like an updated Bluetooth version of the Commport. I bet it's BIG $'s...

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