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Old 06-28-2006, 02:40   #1
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Caliber Corner problem posters....

Folks,
We've been inundated with reports about people causing arguments in this forum. We've had this problem in other forums such as Political, Religious, AWOT, 1911, GNG, etc. The only way to solve it, considerably, is to get rid of the few who are starting trouble.

I see there are personality conflicts between a few of you. Let me say this, if you participate in these name calling games, and start trouble under the guise of so called patting someone on the back with false praise, you are just as guilty as the next person and your posting privileges will be revoked.

I don't know how to make myself any clearer. We may have to get rid of a few good people, those who won't OR can't get along, to make things bearable for the rest of us.

So we will be reviewing this forum closely. There may be no other warnings to you other than finding out you are no longer able to logon to Glock Talk. Put those of whom you can't get along with on your ignore list. Then IGNORE them.

I'm sorry it has come to this, but a forum this size needs a standard of rules that are adhered to by EVERYONE. We don't ask for much, except to act like ADULTS, and if you are going to disagree, do so with a modicum of civility. I guess some posters are having trouble even with that.

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Old 06-28-2006, 20:24   #2
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i was wondering when you all would step in. it's been getting real stupid here lately.
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Old 06-29-2006, 12:25   #3
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Eddie C,
Is it the 'normal thing' to warn prior to removal of priviledges?
Just curious... I've never been warned, so do I assume I am OK at this point?
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Old 06-30-2006, 23:12   #4
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Eddie C,
Is it the 'normal thing' to warn prior to removal of priviledges?
Just curious... I've never been warned, so do I assume I am OK at this point?
Some(WalterGa for example), get/received NUMEROUS warnings prior to gettin the boot. Some get none. Depends on the violation I presume.

If you cuss out a mod, there's a good chance you won't be warned.

If you just do something stupid, well, you might, you might not... Common sense gets you through most of the rules. Most likely you'd know if Eddie was referring to you...

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Old 07-02-2006, 09:19   #5
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Some(WalterGa for example), get/received NUMEROUS warnings prior to gettin the boot. Some get none. Depends on the violation I presume.

If you cuss out a mod, there's a good chance you won't be warned.

If you just do something stupid, well, you might, you might not... Common sense gets you through most of the rules. Most likely you'd know if Eddie was referring to you...

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Ditto. I usually warn posters ahead of time. Going through this forum the last week or two I have to admit is an eye opener. There are about 5 or 6 posters that are on the edge of getting shown the door. Two or three that only have to breach the rules blatantly, to get express service. They know who they are by the threads I've closed and whom I am referring to. If not, well then they have a surprise coming then.

Glock17JHP, you aren't one of them. Eric, Patricia, and I don't like getting rid of anyone, believe me. We agonize about it and it's not a decision that comes easily. It's just that sometimes you have to sacrifice even a good member for the sake and sanity of all involved. Like I said before, some people just can't <i>or</i> won't get along with others.

WalterGA was a good example of this. He had so much to offer and could of helped make this site a leaven of intellect. He just became too much work for the Mods and Admins.

The Political and Religious forums were getting totally out of hand about 2 months ago. We had to get rid of a handful of members and things are much better now. The ones we got rid of didn't heed the warnings. I'm hoping the posters in this forum are a bit less incredulous.


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Old 07-02-2006, 17:04   #6
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Thank you, I was wondering when you were going to step in, the last several weeks were...challenging to say the least, seemed to be a forum for arguing vs information. thanks again.

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Old 07-02-2006, 19:04   #7
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Thank you, I was wondering when you were going to step in, the last several weeks were...challenging to say the least, seemed to be a forum for arguing vs information. thanks again.

Peter

No problem Peter. It's just that Bob (true believer) and I need everyones help. If you see someone not abiding by the rules, hit that "Report this post to a moderator" icon at the bottom of the offending post. Then send us a report and we can act on it.

The reports go to the Moderators of that particular forum. If there are no Moderators in that forum, they go to an Administrator (Eric, Patricia, or myself).

Unfortunately we can't read every thread or post, so we depend on helpful members like yourself to give us a heads up on the rules violators. We never divulge who sent the reports. Luckily we usually get many for the real bad ones and we notice them right away.

The good members make Glock Talk what it is. We couldn't do it without you.

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Old 07-04-2006, 08:54   #8
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So,Eddie....
Which has more knockdown power?
9mm or 45acp?

I know I've popped off a few times
but I've come to the realization that some folks are beyond educating so I try to recognize them and move on.



Sorry if I've been one of the offenders.
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Old 07-04-2006, 10:01   #9
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So,Eddie....
Which has more knockdown power?
9mm or 45acp?

I know I've popped off a few times
but I've come to the realization that some folks are beyond educating so I try to recognize them and move on.



Sorry if I've been one of the offenders.

Thanks J.P. Also...................


























everyone knows 9mm can stop a charging Grizzly!
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Old 07-04-2006, 10:49   #10
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May I suggest that you crack down on the 10mm degrading threads. Several of us realize the full potential of this round and others just want to sit and push our buttons. People come in here to be educated on handgun ballistics. It's not at all professional for these arm chair ballistics experts to lead them in the wrong direction. It just feeds the cycle of ignorance. Feel free to PM me concerning this matter as I'd love to express my views...
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Old 07-04-2006, 11:47   #11
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May I suggest that you crack down on the 10mm degrading threads. Several of us realize the full potential of this round and others just want to sit and push our buttons. People come in here to be educated on handgun ballistics. It's not at all professional for these arm chair ballistics experts to lead them in the wrong direction. It just feeds the cycle of ignorance. Feel free to PM me concerning this matter as I'd love to express my views...
cobranx, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just because it doesn't jibe with yours doesn't mean people should be called names. It also doesn't mean they are out to get your goat. Just state your facts and leave it at that. It's when the discussions get ugly and the rules are bypassed that people risk losing their posting ability.

So remember, just because someone doesn't see your side of an issue, it's no reason to get tossed off this site because you <i>have to be right at any cost!</i>

Take the high road and be a bigger person and let them think what they choose. It won't kill you. Believe me.
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Old 07-04-2006, 11:58   #12
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cobranx, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just because it doesn't jibe with yours doesn't mean people should be called names. It also doesn't mean they are out to get your goat. Just state your facts and leave it at that. It's when the discussions get ugly and the rules are bypassed that people risk losing their posting ability.

So remember, just because someone doesn't see your side of an issue, it's no reason to get tossed off this site because you <i>have to be right at any cost!</i>

Take the high road and be a bigger person and let them think what they choose. It won't kill you. Believe me.
Alright, totally disregard my opinion...
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Old 07-04-2006, 13:45   #13
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So,Eddie....
Which has more knockdown power?
9mm or 45acp?

I know I've popped off a few times
but I've come to the realization that some folks are beyond educating so I try to recognize them and move on.



Sorry if I've been one of the offenders.
JP, it's not so much educating, as arguing our points to the degree we digress to meaningless agruments to make a point...right or wrong, we all have our opitions as to what's best or what we think is best & everyone's entitled to their opition. We all know you love the 9, as I do mine, as well as my 40,45 & 10, I for one respect your knowledge, it just seems you get a little carried away sometimes trying to make a point. Their all great calibers in the righr hands.

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Old 07-04-2006, 14:00   #14
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9, 40,45,10 & 357sig are all great calibers with limitations, as long as we understand those limitations & practice & train any of the above will do it's job & do it with complete & total lethality. We educate ourselves on the limitations as well as the merits of a particular caliber thru this & other forums with intellegent posts & research & PRACTICE. I for one have learned a lot in a short time. Thanks for a great forum Eddie.

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Thanks for stepping in, it was at the point where I wasn't coming to this forum anymore since all the threads were degenerating into caliber wars and personal attacks.
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Old 07-04-2006, 19:01   #16
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I just realized this thread was here.

I acknowledge that I am one of the problem posters referred to in the original post. For that I apologize to all the forum members. In the future I shall endeavor to be a gentleman.

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Old 07-06-2006, 05:13   #17
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I think the point that cobranx was trying to make is simply that if you dont like a caliber, or have no use for it, why continually chime in on a thread to spread misconceptions,etc? If I did that, my entire day would be engrossed on 9mm threads trying to convince people that they dont need it. Some of these people even stereotype with names like "hero warriors",etc. Which in turn leads the "opposing side" to comments about being "recoil sensative",etc. Some are simply infatuated with their "hatred" towards certain calibers(the 10mm being a perfect example). As an example, how can you be a fan of the 9mm, and yet spend more of your time posting on 10mm threads??
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Old 07-06-2006, 12:38   #18
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Attacking, not caring for, or disliking a certain calibre or pistol is one thing but doing the same toward an individual is totally different. If I'm talking up my Sig's and somebody states "Sig's blow" I could really care less. To each his or her own I say. If you're in doubt add a smilie at the end. IMO, this changes the intent greatly. Just my thoughts. Trust me. I'm listening to myself. I'm no angel but I'm working on it.
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People have a right to express their opinions on any fourm here so long as they do it without attacking another poster. Its one thing to say the 10mm sucks its another to say such and such poster is a recoil sensitive wimp because he does not like my faviorate caliber. Its all about being mature adults and being able to agree to disagree.
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People have a right to express their opinions on any fourm here so long as they do it without attacking another poster. Its one thing to say the 10mm sucks its another to say such and such poster is a recoil sensitive wimp because he does not like my faviorate caliber. Its all about being mature adults and being able to agree to disagree.
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You hit it right on the head Pat, state the facts & let people draw their own conclusions, I hate this senseless bickering. Some people like to argue just for the sake of arguing. Go figure. I don't always agree with some of the things I read here but I do my research, analyze the data & draw my own conclusions.

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