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Old 04-15-2014, 10:08   #1
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GIMMICK OR GODSEND? Troy Defense Releases Pump-Action AR

GIMMICK OR GODSEND? Troy Defense Releases Pump-Action AR-15 for “Restricted State” Shooters

In parts of the nation where “freedom” is more of a Scrabble word than a working concept, there are restrictions and sometimes outright bans on owning the most popular rifle platform in the nation, the Eugene Stoner-designed AR-15. Other self-loading rifles with certain cosmetic features are also affected.

To get around these absurd restrictions, some companies gun have opted to alter or remove the cosmetic features that simple-minded legislators have banned, keeping the same semi-automatic action intact. Black Rain Ordnance has chosen to go that route with their New York compliant models.

http://bearingarms.com/gimmick-or-go...tate-shooters/

Thankfully I reside in a state where I don't have to choose. SJ 40
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Old 04-15-2014, 10:32   #2
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I suppose if you have to have an AR platform and can’t have a semi-auto, this might be something to consider. But I won’t be buying one.
Didn’t DPMS have a pump action several years ago??
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:19   #3
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I see it as a company that is trying to corner a new market and not one that is offering products for those in less than free states. They are just trying to make a buck. If they really cared they would refuse to sell or manufacture anything in a state where those laws exist.
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Old 04-15-2014, 12:41   #4
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A gun you can expect from a company like Troy. Maybe they can add Lon Horiuchi to their team yet to push the new rifle.
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Old 04-15-2014, 13:19   #5
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Old 04-15-2014, 14:23   #6
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Pump action AR ain't new.

Wasn't there one available back in the bad old days of the AWB?
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Old 04-15-2014, 14:34   #7
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If I needed a pump action .223 it would be a Remington 7615P. I considered them years ago before our Chief allowed AR style patrol rifles.

I vote gimmick but I would not be opposed to running a few mags through one if offered the chance. It might be a fun little gun to shoot.
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Steve Troy and Dale Monroe can both go &^%$ a duck for all I care. I hope the rifle is a huge disaster and bankrupts the company along the way!
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Old 04-15-2014, 14:48   #9
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I vote gimmick but I would not be opposed to running a few mags through one if offered the chance. It might be a fun little gun to shoot.
That's all well and good but I would not use that gun or any Troy product unless it was the last gun on earth and I needed it to defend my life. I would rather give up the sport of shooting than support Troy Industries. Total scum in my eyes.

As far I'm concerned, we have seen the enemy and it is Troy Industries.
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Old 04-15-2014, 23:33   #10
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Pump action AR ain't new.

Wasn't there one available back in the bad old days of the AWB?
DPMS made carbine and pistol-sized pump-action AR-style firearms. Here's an old link to a page for the carbine:

http://www.proguns.com/dpmsarms-pumpactionrifle.asp

and the pistol:

http://www.proguns.com/dpmsarms-pumpactionpistol.asp




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Old 04-16-2014, 00:06   #11
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I'd rather spend my money on a Uhaul rental. That being said though, I'd love to see every gun manufacturer do a Ron Barrett on these states.
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:00   #12
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Even if it was all that was available I still wouldn't own it. I as well don't care for troy. Hs is on the list too. How many remember their ad with Lon Horiochi?
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Old 04-17-2014, 13:41   #13
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I dont know anything about Troy Industries except that they sell AR accessories. What did they do to tick everybody off? Just asking since I have no idea.
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Old 04-18-2014, 08:25   #14
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I dont know anything about Troy Industries except that they sell AR accessories. What did they do to tick everybody off? Just asking since I have no idea.
Short version is they hired Lon Horiuchi’s partner Dale Monroe.
Huriuchi was the sniper who killed Vicky Weaver at Ruby Ridge.
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Old 04-21-2014, 03:28   #15
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I see it as a company that is trying to corner a new market and not one that is offering products for those in less than free states. They are just trying to make a buck. If they really cared they would refuse to sell or manufacture anything in a state where those laws exist.
And then the people in those states would have what?

Dont blame troy blame the ass hats in charge.
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There are far better options available than anything made by Troy Defense.

May their factory get hit by an asteroid.
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Old 04-21-2014, 18:49   #17
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There are far better options available than anything made by Troy Defense.

May their factory get hit by an asteroid.

Ok beside the Remington 7615 where can one get a pump that uses hi cap mags?
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Old 04-22-2014, 05:05   #18
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A gun you can expect from a company like Troy. Maybe they can add Lon Horiuchi to their team yet to push the new rifle.
Here we go again.....
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Old 04-22-2014, 15:35   #19
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Pump action and straight pull AR's have been popular in the UK for years.

posted from my stupid smart phone, please excuse any spelling mistakes.
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Old 04-22-2014, 16:24   #20
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I suppose it makes sense for those who prefer a fast cycling manual action but can avail themselves to the same accessories as a typical AR15.

Let's face it, not everybody can own a semiauto, and not everybody wants a semiauto. A pump gun can "pump" out a lot of rounds in a rapid manners as well.
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Interesting. I always really like these

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222928
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