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Old 01-21-2015, 16:41   #1
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Educate me on the Saiga Z132Z.

For reference:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...+16%22+30R+SYN

I have two VZ2008s. I mainly bought them to test the 7.62 waters, but found them to be decent, lightweight and fun little guns to plink with. I understand that they aren't true Kalashnikovs but are "close enough" for me.

After hearing the announcement that RWC was going to start stamping out their own AKs here, I figured now would be the last chance to for a while (if ever) to pick up a Russian made AK. So I jumped on the cheapest I found.

Anyway, questions...

1. From the literature, I'm fairly certain that it accepts generic AK magazines with no alteration required unlike some Saigas. True?

2. Is wooden furniture available? It used to be the case that people had to unsporterize stock Saigas to get them to be tactical. I'd like to "un-tacti-kewel" mine to be more traditional.

3. Do they come with a receiver side rail installed for scope mount?

4. Anything else I need to know?


Mine won't arrive until last next week (around my Bday ) and I haven't found out much online about RWC's upper price point AKs. So, I'm anxious to get up to speed on my impulse buy.

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Old 01-22-2015, 20:43   #2
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Takes standard mags.

You should be able to use a wood stock. I slide one into my Saiga and it fit perfect. I really dont care for the furniture on that one. Ive got one with wood and one with Zenit/JEC Custom furniture. Best of the best imo.

Saigas typically have a side rail to mount a rail on.

Looks like its not threaded. You should also look into Vepr. Saigas are lighter but Vepr is more accurite typically.

www.gunwatcher.com

You can enter Saiga or Vepr in here and find the bet price and where they are available.
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Old 01-22-2015, 20:49   #3
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Good price. I bought one for the same reason on Black Friday. Paid $20 more for it from my LGS.

It will take a generic Tapco or other AK mag. It is "converted".

I think I've seen wood available for it.

Don't know about the side rail (I don't want to go dig mine out right now and I haven't even shot mine yet).
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Old 01-23-2015, 07:33   #4
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Ok, just checked. Mine has the side rail for a scope.
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Old 01-23-2015, 07:56   #5
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Excellent, guys, thanks!

I was just looking at side rail options. Good to know that it already comes with one. One less thing to deal with.
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Old 01-23-2015, 18:05   #6
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Tacticool ****e AK pimped to the max... appeals to teenweens with acne....lotsa rails and ridges for show.

I have a Saiga AK, and it "sho' don' look like that".

This thing will weigh more than your VZ2008, with all that "polymer stuff".

Missing the threaded barrel and the bayonet lug.


Wait for the Century's- made in USA, version 2, nitrided, to come to market.
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Wait for the Century's- made in USA, version 2, nitrided, to come to market.
It's out now.
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Tacticool ****e AK pimped to the max... appeals to teenweens with acne....lotsa rails and ridges for show.

I have a Saiga AK, and it "sho' don' look like that".

This thing will weigh more than your VZ2008, with all that "polymer stuff".

Missing the threaded barrel and the bayonet lug.


Wait for the Century's- made in USA, version 2, nitrided, to come to market.
Thanks for the post. But you did see point #2 in my original post, right?

And I'm well aware of the C39 V2s which are already on the market.

But if I'm going to have one "AK", I want one that is B России Granted it's been converted, but converted by the sole licensed importer of Saiga rifles, which not even they can get their hands on now.

I'm looking at it as a collection piece, not as a go to rifle.

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Congratulations. That is a nicely equipped fancy Saiga you will have there.
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Congratulations. That is a nicely equipped fancy Saiga you will have there.
Thanks, but the plastic is coming off and wood going back on. I'll maybe even add a POSP scope.

Thanks to the embargo, this is the only Russian stamped AKM model that I could find on the new market. There might be some of the basic Saiga sporters floating around. But after converting them I'd be out the same money. I might as well pay a little extra and have the importer do it.
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I left my Saiga bare bones; it is the 20" version that I picked up used about 2 years ago, and have not converted it yet. Runs like a champ.
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