I think my 21 has proven its durability - Page 13

Kyle E. Coyote · 02-02-2009, 13:24

Unreal... maybe I should sell that unfired backup G30 collecting dust in the sock drawer. Seeing this I know I'll obviously never need it, AWB 2.0 won't affect it... don't really know what it's there for anymore.

SAG · 02-13-2009, 19:38

Wow.
What else do you say after reading/watching this?
My pampered Glocks should be good until about 3009.

MSW · 02-14-2009, 19:12

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Originally Posted by mike_purdue

As a mechanical engineer that actually uses math and the laws of physics can I ask you to stop using these words?

You don't know what you're talking about. The laws of physics have names, there are a lot of them. If you are a physicist be specific, if you're not then stop referring to sciences you do not understand.

If the fact that you cannot argue that laws of mathematics is a fact, then why do mathematicians and physicists and engineers constantly CONSTANTLY argue these things?

Further, the modern understanding of basic (Newtonian) mechanics that govern things like dropping guns out of planes after they take off from treadmills has been pretty well understood for only about 300 years (he was born in 1643). The universe has been around for somewhere between 2200 and infinity years depending on your religious beliefs, so we haven't really had the time to "iron everything out" yet.

Anyways, you don't think this guy really did this stuff, or you think that he exaggerated his results. Please leave it at that, and qualify your opinions in a reasonable way, but don't just say "I'm right because of science".

Stop being a troll.

Mike Purdue -

Great post.

I enjoy reading the thread and I just sort of assume the poster knows enough not to fire a weapon with a muzzle pluged with mud. He seems to have an approach to this and I've enjoyed reading it. This guy looks like he knows what he is doing.

I've got a physics question or two that I should know the answer to but I just can't remember. Maybe you can help.

Take the drop from the airplane example in the thread. Interesting but here are my questions (and, while you answer them, maybe the original poster can come up with some other test)

1. If pistol is dropped from airplane at 500' or 5000', won't it hit ground at same speed? (won't the pistol reach terminal velocity?) Also, how about a quick explination of what terminal velocity is. Don't objects of the same weight hit the ground at the same speed once they reach terminal velocity?

1A. How long or from what height would it be before a G21 reached terminal velocity?

1B. If so, what is the terminal velocity of a G21 when it hits the ground in MPH or FPS.

1C. If dropped from 500' - how long will it take for pistol to hit the ground?

2. What effect does the speed of the plane have on the velocity of the pistol hitting the ground? Does the forward air speed have any effect on how "hard" the pistol hits the ground?

3. I seem to remember that there was a "streamer/marker" attached to the pistol. What effect does this have on slowing the pistol? I seem to remember as a kid shooting Estes rockets that we either used a streamer or a parachute. Any effect having the streamer?

4. Since you're an ME (I'm not) - why do you think some of the parts of the glock (let's say they are all finished the same) are rusting faster than others? I think I know why the spring rusts but why do spots on the pistol rust faster than others?

Hope you can answer some of these. Thanks.

JoshuaC · 02-21-2009, 13:13

Good lord man that pistol has been put through it's paces and it's still comes back for more.

techno97 · 03-01-2009, 14:57

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Originally Posted by trick pony

This is the dumbest kind of thinking. I swear, some people dislike glocks, simply because they are not a 1911. Ill be honest, i think a 1911 is antiquated! But it remains because somwhere, there is a guy sitting in a room reading a book about the 1911 and openly weaping thinking about pappy and his colt 45. This is such crap!!! Honestly, im a young shooter at 23 so i dont understand it, but give me a freakin brake....the future is now!

I CONCUR WITH TRICK PONY! Though I started shooting approximately half-a-year ago, I've already placed in almost all shoots/competitions I participate in with my Glock 21SF. In fact, I shoot better with the same than my Glock 35 due to various reasons related primarily with gripping. Though I still have to actually win a match and emerge as its champion, contrary to being told that I am at a disadvantage against the 1911s at standard level - the fact that I usually rank amongst the top five and given the fact that I'm but a more-or-less 6 month proves otherwise.

vigalass · 04-29-2009, 19:32

amazing. i feel even safer than before. wish i didn't live in the city limits.

NH Trucker · 05-06-2009, 21:48

I've been having some issues with my 21sf releasing a full mag with the slide closed, which I hear is a common annoyance. I'm still happy with my purchase and after seeing this, I'll never get rid of it! This was amazing. I can't wait to show my girlfriend this post to show her exactly why I choose to carry Glock! However, does anyone know how to fix the mag release problem?

bigbore · 05-11-2009, 12:05

why do you think some of the parts of the glock (let's say they are all finished the same) are rusting faster than others? I think I know why the spring rusts but why do spots on the pistol rust faster than others?

The spots on the slide/barrel that are rusting are the areas that were damaged deep enough to remove the tennifer. The rust inside of the barrel is not rust on the barrel/bore itself - but rust on the build up/fouling.

MADnMO · 05-13-2009, 11:39

I guess I made a good choice in picking my G21.

Brockmant · 06-09-2009, 20:38

I am new to Glocks and this is 100% absolutely, unbelievably, AWESOME! Wow.

S. Kelly · 06-11-2009, 14:50

I've always had fights with friends about Glocks, so I sent them this link. The G21 is an awesome weapon, I just wish my Dept would go with it in the G21 SF/G30SF combo.

sourdough44 · 06-26-2009, 12:05

That is pretty crazy, and interesting.

Wetterman · 07-06-2009, 11:24

Bigbore any pics of it after the evapo-rust treatment? The youtube videos seem to have been removed.

Jordan81 · 10-26-2009, 09:17

About the only thing left to do is field strip it and have Rosie O eat it. I'm not sure if you want to break protocol and clean it before firing it afterwards.

proraptor · 11-11-2009, 15:47

The G21 is my favorite out of any glock Ive owned. Love reading these torture tests

Apocalypse_Now · 11-11-2009, 21:25

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Originally Posted by techno97

I CONCUR WITH TRICK PONY! Though I started shooting approximately half-a-year ago, I've already placed in almost all shoots/competitions I participate in with my Glock 21SF. In fact, I shoot better with the same than my Glock 35 due to various reasons related primarily with gripping. Though I still have to actually win a match and emerge as its champion, contrary to being told that I am at a disadvantage against the 1911s at standard level - the fact that I usually rank amongst the top five and given the fact that I'm but a more-or-less 6 month proves otherwise.

Look here, pup.. I own both Glocks and 1911s. I like both of them. Both are excellent weapons for any real world use.. I prefer the Glock for survival use but I doubt you would want to go toe to toe with a 1911 in an expert's hands

Brucev · 12-05-2009, 10:48

I have just now finished reading all 13 pages of comments on this thread. I am amazed at the Glock design. Regardless of caliber it seems to be the gun to which all others are compared. I have used 9mm, .40 S&W and .45 ACP Glocks. Without exception all ran perfectly. I have never had a single failure with a Glock pistol. My current Glock is a G-22 which from the first round fired has run flawlessly. With 180 gr. ammo POI has always been POA. It is a superlative pistol. If limited to only one handgun, it would be a Glock. I very much appreciate these series to test. I very much appreciate the video provided. My hat is off to Bigbore of Adco Firearms who conducted the time consuming and expensive testing that made this thread possible. Sincerely. Bruce.

MrOldLude · 01-19-2010, 20:56

Pretty macho, though I really can't stomach abusing mine. My brain tells me, "Hey, that's not a fantastic idea. You spent good money on it. be nice."

Rick50 · 01-19-2010, 22:48

wow, they have always claimed to be durable, like a timex take a licken and keep on ticken.
Some of those photos almost made me cry

thanks
R

Rick50 · 01-25-2010, 22:56

glock should send you a new one for all your consumer testing.
thanks for using yours

Wetterman · 01-31-2010, 13:58

BIGBORE mind answering these questions I've asked earlier on this thread?

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bigbore
what's that guide rod assembly on your gun?

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Bigbore any pics of it after the evapo-rust treatment? The youtube videos seem to have been removed.

CELT · 01-31-2010, 22:51

Great thread.

I have a HK45 but really don't take it out too much due to the cost of ammo and the fact that it's a $900-$1000 gun and don't want to get it nicked in any way shape or form.

I'm looking at a G21SF and the FN FNP hard as a primary .45ACP pistol. I already have a G19 so the G21SF is in the lead, plus it's less expensive.

Staberinde · 05-31-2010, 00:22

This thread among the others convinced me to go for Glock. Now few thousand rounds trough it it never let me down.

elLOCOmutha · 06-03-2010, 04:44

Yea all these tests are well and good but the real question is....
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Will Dry firing hurt it?!?!

Amazing torture tests, can't wait to get my new G30SF and start pampering it.

Thanks to people like you I will never have to do these grueling tests.
Thanks!

W4CNG · 07-11-2010, 21:07

I have one of the first series of Glock G21's into the US with an XL serial number. The only issue I had with it was chipping extractors in 1992 (FTE). Got that fixed and have only cleaned it 5 times since then with more than 20,000 rounds thru it mostly lead reloads (yes it will shoot hard lead 200Gr SWC's at 190PF) with no issues and no warranty issues. I am now abusing my G-35 with an after market fully supported chamber barrel at 170PF with 200Gr bullits in USPSA competetion. The reason for the G35 is 19+1 in the gun, the G21 is 15+1. More is better in competetion. I only clean a gun and then take it to the range to shoot it. How do you know your really clean gun will go BANG when you need it after cleaning it and not test firing it???