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Old 06-15-2014, 12:31   #1
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180gr HST, Gold Dot, or Ranger t

im trying to decide on some new carry ammo. I have a 27,23,22. Which do you prefer?
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Old 06-15-2014, 13:05   #2
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All,
lol I don't think u can go wrong with any of those rounds. Although the hst seems to be becoming the overall favorite. Cant find a test online were it preforms bad. Shoots out of my 23 real nice!! But I really wouldn't mind having any of those. I prefer 180 grain to.
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Old 06-15-2014, 13:20   #3
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180gr HST, Gold Dot, or Ranger t
Yes.

This may help:

Federal Ammunition Federal Law Enforcement 40 S&W Ammo 180 Grain HST Jacketed Hollow Point - $25/50. (Free Shipping on a Case)

Good deal on some Great Ammo.




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Old 06-15-2014, 15:19   #4
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180gr HST, Gold Dot, or Ranger t
Which do you prefer?
Mostly, whichever is on top of the stack when reaching into one of my ammo lockers. I also have Rem 180gr HPJ BJHP (Golden Sabre) in my own mix (issued load for the last several years).

I had several boxes (250 rounds?) mixed in my ammo supply, along with 165gr RA40TA, 180gr RA40T, 180gr Gold Dot and the Rem HPJ, but I never got around to trying it in my own .40's, and only 250 rounds didn't give enough to confirm feeding & function in my several .40's of different makes/models. I only had the HST because another firearms instructor gave it to me at an instructor update, in case I wanted to try it out sometime. I finally ended up giving it away to another instructor who was running short of training/practice ammo because of back-ordered ammo.

Bottom line? As long as it's one of the modern hollowpoint designs being offered by any of the major American ammo companies who see a lot of LE/Gov sales, I'm not fussy like I was when I was a younger cop/firearms instructor.

Which one can you get for the most affordable case quantity, so you can confirm feeding/functioning and add it to your practice mix at least every once in while?
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Old 06-15-2014, 15:27   #5
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i found the hst the cheapest,but they also have 20 boxes of ranger t for $7 more per 50. Those talons look wicked and i was thinking of throwing a box in the cart just to have. If its no good ill just add another box of hst. Also are the surplus eastern european AK mags at sgammo GTG?

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Old 06-15-2014, 15:42   #6
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HST, especially in 180gr but all weights work excellently. The nice thing about HST is they are relatively easy to find and work well and consistently in all barrel lengths, even down to 3".
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Old 06-15-2014, 15:46   #7
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i have 180gr gold dots (100rds) now, but have heard so much about the hst and t series that i thought it might be worth a switch. Should i get some more protection ammo or just stock up on AK mags? Right now, im thinking of getting 100 rds of hst, 50 rds of t series, and 10 more ak mags (have 23 now)... Or should i stick with the GDs and just get 20 more ak mags?


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Old 06-15-2014, 18:02   #8
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I would choose, in this order...

HST
Gold Dot
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Ranger

I've seen too many videos of Rangers failing to expand, and I've experienced firsthand poor quality control in Ranger ammo. I won't buy Winchester's personal defense ammo again.
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Old 06-15-2014, 18:12   #9
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I would choose, in this order...

HST
Gold Dot
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Ranger

I've seen too many videos of Rangers failing to expand, and I've experienced firsthand poor quality control in Ranger ammo. I won't buy Winchester's personal defense ammo again.
This. Exactly.
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Old 06-15-2014, 18:22   #10
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All three are very good choices, I also really like the bonded Ranger (aka PDX1) hollow points. I like the HST the best of the lot, and to me the bonded Ranger/PDX is about on par with the Gold Dots.
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Old 06-15-2014, 20:50   #11
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Watch tnoutdoors9's HST videos on YouTube
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Old 06-16-2014, 09:21   #12
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Flip a coin they all perform just about the same.
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Old 06-16-2014, 09:25   #13
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thanks for the replies, hst it is
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Old 06-16-2014, 12:56   #14
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Flip a coin they all perform just about the same.
Yep, pretty much.
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Old 06-16-2014, 13:10   #15
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Flip a coin they all perform just about the same.
Not always, especially when you are talking shorter barrels and clothing considerations.
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Old 06-16-2014, 15:05   #16
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I like the HST. Great expension and great penetration, best of both worlds!

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Old 06-16-2014, 18:08   #17
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Not to hijack this thread, but what about Federal Hydra Shok???
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Old 06-16-2014, 22:57   #18
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Not to hijack this thread, but what about Federal Hydra Shok???
Old tech. maybe 60% reliable compared to the piss-hole 20% reliable original Winchester hollow-points.

HST is very close to 100%, even w/ a variety, and combinations of, clothing and barriers.

Check out the FBI Test Protocols at the bottom of this link.


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Old 06-16-2014, 23:41   #19
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Hst all the way. There all great hst shoots smoother to me. I carry hst for 9mm 40 and 45
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Old 06-17-2014, 00:20   #20
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Gold Dots for me. Waiting for an HST in 10mm.
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