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Old 01-30-2005, 08:14   #21
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How are you guys getting 1400fps with a 200gr lead bullet. Is it simply because it is lead instead of jacketed? Is this a normal velocity for the doubletap ammo?
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Old 01-30-2005, 15:23   #22
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I would also like to see this thread stickied. Great-to-know info!

One surprizing detail, though: 165gr GD has better expansion than the 155gr load? Is this due to the petals peeling back farther on the 155s? Is it possible that at some point in the bullet's travel through the gelatine the 155gr GD actually had a greater expanded diameter, and then as it continued through the petals peeled back farther, in effect reducing thr final expanded diameter?

Or, to put it another way, is it possible that the 155gr loading may actually cut a broader wound channel and permanent cavity than the 165gr GD, at least through a portion of the "target". Do we know anything about the "wound channels" carved out by these loadings?

It seems to me that everyone should have a mag loaded with the 135gr and/or 155gr loads for inorganic barrier penetration, and a mag loaded with the 155gr and/or the 165gr loads for flesh and bone penetration. Or just have three mags handy, one with each load. The 10mm is truly the most versatile of all auto-pistol cartridges - awesome! Thanks again, McNett!!!;f
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Old 01-30-2005, 16:26   #23
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Old 02-01-2005, 01:06   #24
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Yes, the 155gr petals were "peeled back" further than the 165gr load.
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The 200gr BTB travels at 1300fps from a G20. It penetrates 25" in pine boards.
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Old 02-07-2005, 15:13   #25
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Hey Mike, I posted in the other thread in Caliber Corner but don't know if you saw it.

Do you have results from the 90gr and 95gr 9x25 loadings?

Also, what about the 200gr FMJ and 220gr LFN 10mm loadings?

Thanks! You are quite an ammunition genius! I really believe you are reaping in business what you have been sowing freely here all these years on GlockTalk.
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Old 02-16-2005, 14:45   #27
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Old 02-24-2005, 23:47   #28
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do you guys think that the 10mm 200gr. XTP is practical at all for personal carry I am planning on getting some of the 165gr GDHP, but not sure which other type to try. Primary use will be personal protection. Basically do you think the 165 would be more effective than the 200 if they both hit in the same place on a BG?
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Old 02-26-2005, 07:41   #29
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I think the 200gr will probably cause a bit less immediate shock and a lot more life threatening damage. Same as a deer, I think a bad guy would bleed out faster with the added exit wound you would get with the 200gr.
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Old 03-10-2005, 13:33   #30
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MV vs. Length?

Mike, Can you provide some info for velocities vs. barrel length? I'm particularly interested in .40, 10mm, and .45, in case the data set is too large. Or just velocity delta per inch, generally speaking, from your baseline, whatever that is.

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Old 03-12-2005, 18:57   #31
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This data is the reason I carry the 135gr load. It should deposit most or all of its energy in the BG without overpenetration.
I agree the 135 gr load is my carry choice .

Thanks mike for the info hopefully the mods will give this a sticky.
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Will there be pictures of the fired bullets and post-fired bullet weights?
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Old 04-20-2005, 10:56   #33
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Will there be pictures of the fired bullets and post-fired bullet weights?
Is this an inappropriate or irrelevant question?
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Will there be pictures of the fired bullets and post-fired bullet weights?

I would love to see pics of the fired bullets.
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Old 05-07-2005, 18:30   #35
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Now if that 158gr Gold Dot is fired from a Ruger Sp-101 like mine with 2.25in barrel (I've fired a box, great ammo!) what could it be expected to do in gelatin?

Mike said it gets about 1225fps. I'm thinking the expansion would be about the same but would penetrate a couple inches less. What say you Mike?

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Very tough bullet. I would guess that the expansion would be .52-.53" and the penetration would be similar.
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Old 05-11-2005, 19:50   #37
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Old 06-01-2005, 23:37   #38
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What sort of fireball do you folks get with the super-light 135gr bullet in 10mm?

My Witness 10mm should be here Thursday or Friday. I wish someone locally would sell DT ammo! I hate mail order! FTF purchases are so much better.
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Not much. The flash is very minimal even with the 135gr loading.
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Old 06-18-2005, 11:09   #40
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I think that the 165 GD Expanding to 1.08 is astounding. A round going through vital tissue while expanding to the size of a quarter.
Doubling its size with penetration. I did carry the 155 gr. I think I've just changed to the 165s.
The 200 gr XTP...........Have you done any testing against car doors, walls..........I think you did say 25 inches of pine board.
I usually carry these while in the back woods........but may carry a mag full as a secondary back up mag for defense.
I'm not a big proponent of over penetration anymore, after I did some research, and found little to back up that so called safty issue.
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