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Old 01-17-2015, 23:35   #1
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Help with Cats battling needed.

We are running into a serious problem in our four cat household. We have two males, Gunny and Gandalf, and two females, Li Lu and Foxy.

Foxy is our most recent addition she's just shy of two years old and has been with us for about 9 months now.

About two months ago my cat, Gunny, started pouncing on Foxy. At first it just seemed that play time was getting a bit rough, but it's gotten worse and now Foxy won't even go into the same room as Gunny unless she's escorted in. He also lays in wait for her at times and will catch her unawares.

We discipline our cats with a squirt bottle when needed and we've also resorted to pheromone therapy for this particular problem to no avail.

Any suggestions on how to modify Gunny's behavior would be appreciated.

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Old 01-18-2015, 00:32   #2
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I had four cats a few years. The old lady of the group (Bella) used the whip the *** of the newest addition a small frail male Manx (maxi) every chance she got.

It sounded like a war sometimes. Water guns is the only thing that ever worked even a little.

I eventually left them alone and let them work it out for themselves. Maxi ended up living under the couch for a few years. Only came out when Bella was up stairs.

Not much you can do short of locking them in separate rooms.
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Old 01-18-2015, 00:38   #3
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Thanks for the reply Jim.

That's my thinking, but hoping that there is another solution. I've considered isolating Gunny to the bath room when these battles start, but I don't know. He kind of likes to be by himself anyways at times, so I don't know how much difference that would make.

The wife has even considered getting another cat, but I'm thinking that will make things even worse. Besides 4 is plenty
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Old 01-18-2015, 03:59   #4
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More spaces for food, water, and liter boxes. The attack cat can't ambush them all simultaneously. And in fact competition for these facilities may be at the root of the conflict. Plenty of places for voluntary time outs as well.


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Old 01-18-2015, 06:48   #5
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We have 3 cats, keep 2 litter boxes and food placement spots, one at each end of the house. It's keep them from fighting over resources.
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It's actually very natural amongst animals living like that to sort out their pack 'order'.
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Old 01-18-2015, 09:09   #7
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Time Out

A 5 minute time out in a dark bathroom seems to work with ours when they are fighting, they come out all calm again. Have to remember to set a stove timer, because 5 minutes to a cat is a long time.
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Had kept Momma and two born plus one adopted litter mates. Had Momma neutered then the kittens as they became old enough.

A year or two later we adopted a male tux kitten. For some reason the female kitten born to Momma took an extreme dislike to the tux. She chased him and he slid under thing too close to the floor for her to follow. Unfortunately he thought that once his head was under, all of him was under. Not so, and the girl routinely attacked whatever was sticking out. The tux set a record at the clinic for most abscesses treated in the first year of a kittens life. At some point the girl broke an eye tooth off in the tux's ankle, requiring surgery to remove the fragment.

As time passed, the tux outgrew the girl and the shoe changed feet. For the rest of her life, the tux kept her close to or under a couch.


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Thanks for the responses. A time out in a dark bathroom seems to be the best solution for now. I didn't think about another cat box. We have two for four cats, probably not enough. I'll add another cat box downstairs also and see if that helps.

As far as food goes, the other three get wet cat food and Gunny gets dry. I don't know if that's a problem or not. Gunny is strange when it comes to food. He prefers the dry though he will occasionally "sneak" some wet. I may start feeding him more wet cat food also though I don't know if he will eat it.

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Sounds like Gunny has too much energy and needs an outlet for his prey instinct. Let him play outside for a while.
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Is your place cat friendly in general - places to jump up and get a high vantage, and places to feel secure ?

That may help - also very effective is forcing more play on the aggressive cat to get rid of the energy.

I've always though of stored up energy in cats like a drug that will make them crazy if it isn't gotten rid of. I can tell when mine is getting fired up, her tail starts flicking and she starts walking sideways like a crab, and puffing up her tail.

For her it's just a game, all I do is get out the pheasant feather on a ice fishing pole and 5 minutes later she is wiped out.
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Is your place cat friendly in general - places to jump up and get a high vantage, and places to feel secure ?

That may help - also very effective is forcing more play on the aggressive cat to get rid of the energy.

I've always though of stored up energy in cats like a drug that will make them crazy if it isn't gotten rid of. I can tell when mine is getting fired up, her tail starts flicking and she starts walking sideways like a crab, and puffing up her tail.

For her it's just a game, all I do is get out the pheasant feather on a ice fishing pole and 5 minutes later she is wiped out.
We have two cat perches with multiple spots on them to perch, so that's not an issue.

Pent up energy is possible even probable. He's five now so he's not a kitten anymore but he's still playful.
I'll admit I don't play with him enough. He spends a lot of time in my lap but not play as in chase the butterfly or what ever. We have several feathers on a stick but they don't see much use. I'll break them out.
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