How To Take Apart The Model 27 Magazine - Page 3

g27_mengi · 01-16-2006, 06:53

Found myself pretty frustrated yesterday about this exact subject. Then I did a search on GlockTalk. Bingo -- end of frustration. Thanks for the sticky, guys!

Glock27Holywood · 01-29-2006, 15:43

I have one myself and with many many hours and much bleeding involved they do come apart. But be prepared to bleed and cuss a lot during the procedure. Basically they say.... (Glock) Press on the mag sidewalls were the two tabs are and place a small screwdriver or metal pry bar and slide the but plate off. It's that simple.... Wish you luck!

Pistol · 02-08-2006, 16:04

Some of the comments above sound like the video is not being followed fully. (Excellent Randy - I have done technical training too in another field)

It really is that simple, but I can see some folks are not using a tool that has the dimensions of the Glock tool. I made one from a good quality T6 screwdriver tool by just nipping the torx head off the end with a Dremel. Shaft is about 35-40mm long.Easier to find and cheaper than the tool, try Sears for ex.

The Glock tool dimensions are ideal for them and I have seen many posts where a pin puch of 3/32 is used. These do not have a long enough shaft in the straight area. Others try awls or what ever too, a taper is not going to work on some tasks on the Glock.

Thanks to the armorer where I bought mine, I got the guided tour upon purchase for disassembly.

RandySmith · 02-08-2006, 19:42

Excellent point Pistol, spot on!

'The right tool for the job' has a lot of merit.

What is the shape of the handle on the torx screwdriver? The rounded corners of the armorer's tool are used to center the pins in the frame.

Randy

BowHunter252 · 03-01-2006, 15:15

Quote:

Originally posted by RandySmith
Excellent point Pistol, spot on!

'The right tool for the job' has a lot of merit.

What is the shape of the handle on the torx screwdriver? The rounded corners of the armorer's tool are used to center the pins in the frame.

Randy

Ahhh now I find out. I've been pushing them back and forth about 10 times to get them centered

cincnorad · 03-21-2006, 23:12

Just got my Glock 26 today...and after a few hours of pain, frustration, and cussing with trying to get the Mags disassembled -- I finally figured out the solution.

Glockmeister.com sells mags with grip extensions already installed. I should have them by Friday.

shovel99 · 03-27-2006, 04:31

I was referred to your video from my "help" post for the exact same reason. Thanks for helping us all out! Paul D.

shovel99 · 03-27-2006, 05:23

... or this won't work. When I just depressing the inner base slightly, which would "seem" to work, apparently the inner base was still preventing the outer base from sliding off. I watched the video again, saw Randy push the tool in at least an inch, heard the "click". When I did that, mine came right off. When the base was off, I could see that the 1" thrust had completely flipped the inner base to the side.

Thanks again Randy and everyone else. I can't imagine accomplishing much in the gun hobby without everyone's great assistance.

Paul D.

RandySmith · 03-27-2006, 21:25

...push the tool in at least an inch, heard the "click". When I did that, mine came right off...

...I could see that the 1" thrust had completely flipped the inner base to the side.

Glad you got it.

Flipping the insert aside is the key to disassembling a magazine.

Randy

HuntingGuy · 06-16-2006, 12:15

Randy,

Finally broke down and bought a GAT at Lone Wolf, sure is better than a sanded down screwdriver LOL..

Thanks for the fine video, my friend. Ok folks, send me your mags, I'll take off the plates for 3.00 per

kraigster414 · 11-03-2006, 16:30

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Originally posted by DannyR
If macho gun shop man dented you mag, the dent will be on the metal inside and not on the polymer outside. It takes very little strength to squeeze the tube. I'm 60, just getting over a heart attack, and can still do it behind my back in 3 seconds.

The hands in the video are the hands of Randy's wife.

I doubt very much that any damage resulted. Brownells actually sells a tool specifically for this purpose that works basically the the same way, though a bit more precise. I have it, I've used it and it works great - no damage to my mags inside or out. You simply exert just enough pressure on the base of the magazine to allow the base plate to be removed. Finger pressure seems to work fine for most.

Misery · 01-06-2007, 00:33

I just put a pierce grip extension on my new G33, and I had a very tough time. There's nothing to grab on to since the mag is so small, plus being new it's very tight. I really chewed up the retention button on the floor plate. I used an allen wrench. I won't be putting the other extension on tonight. It's a PITA.

shovel99 · 01-06-2007, 05:34

Hi Misery,

From your comments, its pretty clear that you didn't use a tool long enough to 'flip' the mag base inside the mag. The allen wrench wasn't either long or stout enough. You can use anything with a shaft on it small enough to fit into the opening... like a number eight nail... or small diameter screwdriver (the point might scratch up the retainer but not hurt anything). A flat blade screwdriver small enough to fit works just fine.

You just push the bottom plate in with the screw driver at least 2 inches or there abouts... angling the screwdriver at about a 30 degree angle to one side of the mag or the other. You need the length so that there is room for the inner base to rotate 90 dgrees to the plate and slip past the screwdriver shaft. When it does, you will hear a click. You then just use your tool, still insterted, to slide the base forward, off the magazine.

Again, your tool was too short. They love to sell you Glock Armorer's tools.. but it is just a small screwdriver with the tip hacksawed off.

Good luck.

Paul

Misery · 01-11-2007, 13:06

Thanks Paul. I'll look around outside for something better to use. The Glock tool is too expensive for what it is. Anyhow, I'll try how you said.

***sfmittels*** · 01-18-2007, 20:09

Try using a small C-clamp to squeeze the sides of the magazine together, then ideally use a proper-sized pin punch. The bottom plate slides off easily and quickly with the magazine sides held together by the C-clamp. Magazine floorplate removal and replacement in less than a minute. Without the C-clamp (or something equivalent), you have an additional task: to clean the blood off the magazine - don't ask how I know.

shafferds · 02-06-2007, 13:16

you can also use a flat head scewdriver 1/8 inch - if picked up one from sears for 3.30 + tax - life time warranty

BoondockSaint54 · 03-17-2007, 16:55

Oops. Think I broke something. I tried the technique in the video, it ain't working. I have a brand new 27 and for the life of me I can't get the plate off. I've tried to press the sides about 20 different ways and still nothing. Now the plate on the inside is sideways and up at the top, not at the side where it's supposed to be. Any advise or is that magazine just garbage now?

shovel99 · 03-17-2007, 18:58

Hi,
If the interior base has flipped up... to the side... maybe even further up inside the magazine alongside the spring... not to worry. What holds the exterior mag base from just slipping forward off the bottom of the magazine is a small "tit" that pokes through the hole in the base, preventing the exterior base from slipping off.

The bottom of the spring holds the interior base down against the exterior base... and the "tit" in the hole. When you push the "tit" through the hole and the interior base flips... whatever tool you are using should be able to just slide the base forward off the magazine... and the spring will pop down and out, bringing the interior base with it. It's just like a jack in the box of old. When you put it back together... the spring goes in... pretty obvious the orientation of top and bottom parallel with slide and mag base... you push down the spring with the interior base... and while holding it down.... slip the exterior mag base over the interior one... and slide it on until it "clicks" and the "tit" pokes through the hole.

You should be "there"... just pull the base off... I doubt if you have broken it.

Good luck, Paul

RandySmith · 03-17-2007, 19:14

The 'tit' on the magazine insert also keeps the magazine insert in place.

The magazine insert itself is what keeps the sides of the magazine from being compressed and the floor plate 'locked' in place. Once it has been flipped out of the way, the floor plate will come right off.

You guys who are using C clamps, the Brownells tool, etc... are going to damage your magazine tube and/or insert.

This is such an easy thing - some of you are making it way more difficult than it has to be by inventing new ways in which to disassemble.

Randy

BoondockSaint54 · 03-17-2007, 19:38

I'll try it again, I just hope I havn't damages the plate. Thanks again

stratocastor80 · 06-03-2007, 13:36

I know this thread is a little old, but it really helped me. I thought I had broken one of my mags, had flipped the insert, but couldn't get the baseplate off. After watching the linked video earlier in the thread, I was able to take the plate off and fix it in under 20 seconds. Not that hard once you see it done. Thank you guys so much!!!!!

ndshooter · 06-21-2007, 16:58

awesome thread! got my glock 26 2 days ago and couldnt figure out how to get the extenders on. Luckily a nice fellow replied to my post in the accessories thread and i changed mine in about 10 seconds. It amazing how easy it is once you know how to do it. thanks everyone.

-new glock owner

***EASTTEXGLOCKER*** · 06-26-2007, 20:56

I thought I would chime in on this subject, those that have done this before it is pretty straight forward. MY first time let say it can cause one to nearly have a nervous breakdown. I LEARNED from my first attempt. So I IMPROVISED I HAVE a XCELITE PS120 KIT some may know that this is 8 small nut drivers and a torque handle. I found that the P-3 3/32" was the perfect size insert it( lock tab release ) half the way down
(1") with nut driver on handle & you can bring the base right on off if you are right handed (pull toward front part of mag) with left hand holding magazine left thumb following the base as you slowly move the left hand thumb to hold spring plate in place mag base now removed ( NOTE DO NOT USE ANY TOOLS) put extension on with right hand & slight downward pressure with left thumb floor plate just enough so base will slide over extension continue until rear of extension is on you will notice the front part of extension is now flush with magazine.If you have trouble pushing just use a sturdy flat surface and push on just reverse for left-handed . Hey folks I hope this will help I know others have give their thought so now I have too and I notice a 60 year young person said he could do it behind his back I may have to try that but I am 66 years old.

GOOD LUCK

SCC · 07-13-2007, 20:54

Quote:

Originally posted by RandySmith
Excellent point Pistol, spot on!

'The right tool for the job' has a lot of merit.

What is the shape of the handle on the torx screwdriver? The rounded corners of the armorer's tool are used to center the pins in the frame.

Randy

that is good to know thank's did not know that

**DannyR** · 10-11-2007, 19:12

Maintenance update 10/11/07.