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Old 04-15-2006, 20:23   #151
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Re: Re: More on the Alpha Schnauzer

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......the training is more for you then the dog...
Sounds like my schutzhund training so far..... Had a good day today, BTW. Now If I can just find a way to remember where my article and my turns are on the tracking...... Any Ideas? I'm terrible at using landmarks for that kinda stuff. I'm trying. (Guess who wants to play ball while I'm typing.... ) We're coming along real well with the obedience. But I need more practice on the motions and corrections and stuff (Only thing I can do for that is practice and work and more work, obviously....). But everybody says I've been getting better. Protection, we're doing fine, too. My dog's got a particularly high prey drive. Our training director/helper got bit on his stick hand today. He was taunting the dog (another member's dog; not Bosco.) by hiding the sleve behind his leg, probably to build her drive up a little, so she LATCHES ON HIS STICK Hand and sinks her canines ALL THE WAY DOWN. I got the pic to proove it (that's right! The cam went off right as she got sunk in good.)! (No, sorry, I don't think I should post the pic.)










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Old 04-30-2006, 17:22   #152
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Mike, My dog has developed the habit of jumping the 4 ft tall portion of our back fence to run around in the field of trees back there and chase squirrels, crows, and the possum that lives around here. As you know Bosco is schutzhund trained, and you can't have a dog like that hopping fences. I'm out there watching him every time he's out of the House anyway (Hey, I'm proud of the dog and like to spend as much time as I can with him. He and I LOVE To be by each others side.), but a friend (the guy I got him from) suggested that, even with that being the case, I get something that will break that habit, I guess as an extra safety measure. Any suggestions? Andre suggested a hotbox kit from Home Depot, which I plan to look into, but Home Depot seems to have a nasty habit of discontinuing things I go in there for about a week or a month before I go in there after it. If I can't find that, what do you reccomend?









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Old 05-01-2006, 09:17   #153
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Talk this over with your Schutzhund trainer and see what they suggest.
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Ok. I will. Thanks Mike.









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Old 05-09-2006, 20:09   #155
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G20,

I hope you can please help me. My wife and I bought a chihuahua puppy yesterday that is between 2 to 3 months old. We need to get him properly house/potty trained as soon as possible. My wife has trained a lab mix before when she was younger and said it was really tough. I feel that there were some differences between then and now though. At any rate we are having real problems with getting this one started and could really use some help. The dog is more for my wife than me, but I feel that I have a lot more patience for this sort of thing than she does. She is getting impatient already and has said that if this keeps up she is going to get rid of him. I just don't want to give the puppy a bad start just because we didn't try everything we could.

So here is our current situation. The puppy has yet to go #2 in front of us in a location we approve of. Currently he has peed in front of us outside where we would like him to 2 or 3 times. Every other time has been inside on the carpet when we were looking or looked away for just a few seconds. My wife and I have taken him outside on the leash trying to get him to go hopefully #2 in front of us outside. He has not so far went #2 outside for all the time we have walked him outside. I am not sure that we even have all the necessary equipment to train him properly. We have a metal wire kennel with a removable plastic bottom that is probably much too large for him that we put him in at night when we sleep or he just had an accident. It has training pads and newspaper on the floor. We had a bed in there but we took it out. We keep his food bowl in the kitchen and only dish out the amount recommended on the bag. He drinks out of a community water dish that is shared with some cats.

There is probably a lot of issues you could correct us on, but we just want to start with him going #1 and/or #2 in front of us when we have him in the right place.

Your rapid response in this matter would be greatly appreciated.

P.S. I don't think my wife is super serious when she said what she said. She often says things she doesn't mean when she is frustrated.
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Kodiak,
First thing is to get the wife to understand this is a baby. It took me until 12 weeks old to housebreak my own dog. This will take some time.
At 11 weeks old, make the crate smaller (just small enough for the dog to lay down and turn around in and remove the papers and whatever else is in there. From here you can read the first page of this thread and it will walk you thru some do and don'ts.

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M that pup is ADORABLE!!!;f
Ok, this is going to be long so here goes.
We have some options here that you need to decide on, litter box training or taking the little guy outside. With pups this small I prefer to use a litter box inside the house because it makes the dog a little less dependant on you. However if you so choose, you can take him outside.
The procedure is the same and is called “Watch and Confine”. What this means is to keep a leash on him and tie the other end to you (watch) while home and while you are not home (or sleeping) confine him in the crate. Now in order for this to work you must not stray from the plan for the next couple of weeks. Only the dog can decide how long it will take. I would get a hamster sized water bottle and hang that on the crate for him to drink from while being confined so that he will not play, spill his water.
Also the crate is about 2X the size needed (for now) so put something in it to divide it in half. I like plywood and then zip tie it to the sides. The reason being, if the crate is that big he will pee in the front and still be able to lay in the back and not be in “it” and that’s not what we want. Also remove the bedding as that will soak up urine.
The things to remember with puppies are that it takes 2 hours for their body to process water and 4-6 hours for food. So if they drink at 10am by noon they will want to pee so be on the lookout. What we want out of this “Watch and Confine” is for them to tell us they need to go and what happens is they will go in front of us eventually. This is a good thing!!! When this happens give a medium sized NO!! (for the third week progressing into the fourth) and take them (again ON THE LEASH) to where you want them to go. Don’t carry him; make him walk on the leash. By the fourth week he will know where he is allowed to go and therefore step up the tone & volume of the NO when he goes in front of you…
If you modify this plan by not using the leash (normal method used by most people) what you will have is a dog that won’t go in front of you but sneak off in another room or wait for you to leave and then he will leave you a surprise somewhere.
Also food is very important at this stage; I recommend buying the best food you can afford as this will make housebreaking a ton easier.
As for his first week and second week at home go easy and don’t expect too much. Puppies @ 10weeks old have almost no holding power at all so when accidents happen give him an easy no and take him to the appropriate place and once he starts going again give lots of verbal praise. Be careful not to spend too much time with him this week, we don’t want him accustomed to you being around 24/7. Give him a siesta every couple of hours in his crate and don’t let him whine, cry, bark, etc.
Well this should get you started and if you need anything else don’t hesitate to post or pm me. Good luck and keep us updated.
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Old 05-20-2006, 08:23   #157
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Hey Walter,

It's great to hear Bosco is working out.. But, as for him jumping the fence, that's not a good thing, schH training or not. I would say that's something you need to address, asap. One thing you may want to keep in mind is, depending on how serious you are with schH, you want to try and fix with problem without doing anything to diminsh Bosco's drive.

When I started schH with Trinity, I replaced our 4 foot fence with a 6 foot fence around the entire property. And I agree with G20man, we never let our dogs out when we aren't home. And the other thing is, we actually do work dogs "through the fence" I guess you'd say, so it really is critical to have a fence strong enough to "contain" the dogs.

Also, a while back you asked about protection training. First, G20man is absolutely right.. ask about protection training and never attack training. And regarding training, be it schH, KNPV, French Ring, protection or whatever, when you find a trainer, go as a spectator first and observe a training session or two, before you take your dog. The reason is, it's absolutely critical for the trainer to have the ability to read the dog. By that I mean, the helper/decoy/trainer whoever, has to be able to determine how much pressure to put on the dog, or in other words, how hard to work him ( or her ). He has to know when to back off, and when to step it up. He has to know if the dog is in prey or defense, how to work the dog in prey and in defense, and how to bring the dog up into drive without overdoing it. There are so many trainers out there who just go through the motions regardless of what the dog is doing or how it's reacting. There have been a countless number of dogs seriously messed up because of it. Believe me, I've seen it happen first hand! Acutally, the ability to read dogs is what seperates the really good trainers from everyone else. And it applies across the board, from AKC obedience to full fledged sentry dog work.

Once again, it's great to hear things are going well with Bosco! That's awesome.. good luck and have fun!

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The thing about going as a spectator before joining a club, that's exactly what I did. Before I ever got Bosco.The club I'm in has really good people. The helpers know what they're doing. We had a good training session today. Dad says the way we tracked Was about a 95. Of course I had to cheat a bit to remember where my turns and article were. I marked them with flags. I was told today to start marking my turns with chalk instead. I still got a lot (like everything...) to learn on the obedience too.








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That's great Walter.. sounds like your good to go! Good luck in your training!! Go Bosco!

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Hey does anyone know where I can get a titanium choke chain? A friend of mine asked me to look for one for her. Swears her dog's been breaking the steel ones. I googled and couldn't find one.









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Hey does anyone know where I can get a titanium choke chain? A friend of mine asked me to look for one for her. Swears her dog's been breaking the steel ones. I googled and couldn't find one.












http://www.gundogsupply.com/-111-.html
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If it does, the owner needs some training.....
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Thanks, Mike. I printed out the page and gave it to her this morning. She said her dad will order one and try it out. I have another question. A nother friend of mine has a blue heeler that keeps digging up the yard. She's gotten to where she's digging under the foundation of the house. He's tried putting bricks and cement blocks in the holes and filling them in, but it hasn't worked. What else can he try??









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If you run an electric fence about 6 inches above the ground near the bottom of the fence you will not have a problem with digging out and you can still run electric fence around the foundation. You can lay chicken wire on the ground or put her poop in the holes.Make sure that you give her a place that she has permission to dig and take her there if you catch her in the act of digging anywhere else.
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A nother friend of mine has a blue heeler that keeps digging up the yard. She's gotten to where she's digging under the foundation of the house. He's tried putting bricks and cement blocks in the holes and filling them in, but it hasn't worked. What else can he try??
Tell him not to leave the dog outside so long. Why is the dog outside so long? Because it isn't trusted in the house? Then there is the issue at hand.

Let's see, Texas, in June, and the dog is digging under the house?
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Mike,

I have Elvis, a one year old white boxer. All things considered he is a great dog. Only problem is that he won't stop drinking when having access to unlimited amounts of water. I've always kept his bowl full but he will drink to the point of either throwing up...or having so much in his bladder he can't make it outside to pee.

I thought maybe if I left a huge waterer out for him, he would realize that water would always be available and he would slow down. Instead he drank the entire bucket, close to a gallon of water. He also drinks really fast.

This is a problem when going to other people's houses or the dog park, any source of water he will drink and drink until I stop him. It's getting very frustrating. Any ideas?
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BBD,
First thing is have him checked by your Vet. Health problems can cause severe thirst.

If he is a healthy dog, then only give him small amounts of water at a time. Don't forget though, Boxers can be really sloppy drinkers so he might not be drinking as much as you think.

A dog keep inside, A/C on, only needs about 12ozs of water during our normal working day. On a day off, try freezing some water in his bowl then fill with cold and see how long it takes to melt. Or you can do the same with the watering system you have.

If he can't control himself, then you must control him with the leash.

Let me know what happens at the Vet...
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I hope you're still monitoring this thread. I've read through all the previous postings and several of them have been very helpful. You have already addressed my question a couple times but I cannot get your recommendations to work...

I have a 3.5 month black lab, adopted from the humane society about 3 weeks ago. Like lab puppies do, he's full of energy and loves to bite/chew on fingers, toes, etc. Its gotten to the point where he has jumped and bitten my wife in the face (she was sitting down) the last two nights and she has obviously become very upset with this. We've tried putting chew toys in his mouth when he's biting but he'll usually run off and drop them then come running back looking for a finger to bite. We've also tried pressing on his tongue (like a largemouth bass) and it just seems to get him even more riled-up.

What else can we do? My wife is at the end of her rope and doesn't even want to play with him for fear of getting hurt. Please help us out. BTW, we plan to enroll him in obediance school ASAP.

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No problems....
First keep him on leash at all times. This is crucial.
Second, buy some of this stuff and leave it outside the front door.
Woof Memorial Critter's Corner

Have the wife coat her hands in it. (It is mostly rubbing alcohol and some wicked bad tasting stuff!!!) Then immediately walk thru the door and STUFF her hands in the dogs mouth.She needs to apply this without the dog knowing several times a day and do this over and over again, until the dog "gets" that mommy does not taste good.
Also, being that it is alcohol it evaporates very quickly, once dry it is of no use. So she must do it while her hands are "wet"
Since you got a lab you may want to get the big bottle, ,
it will come in handy later during the chewing phase. ( I promise)

If the thumb on the tongue trick, is getting him more riled, you are not doing it a)hard enough and b)long enough c)deep enough. A little wimper here is good.(Boy am I glad I didn't have to type that in the OAF! )

Try this and let me know how you're doing with it.
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hey Camelarc,

For what it's worth, I'll second G20's advice. I have four German Shepherds, and my first male was quite the chewer.. LOL! He had a thing for woodwork and electric cords and the short story is, we used Bitter Apple with great results. Good luck with your lab!

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Thank you both for your help, I'll keep you updated on the progress.
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Hi,

I've got a few questions about a nice little adorable puppy my wife and kids found on the street starving and brought him home. He's growing up to be a Pitbull/Maltese mix and at 6 months is twice the size of our last rescue dog.

Other than chewing up everything that is not nailed down, and some things that are, he has not really had any behavior problems. My 15 year old daughter has taken a lot of time up with him as have I and he minds us well for the most part. Where my concern lies is one of the 'things' he chews on is my other dog! Now, at this point, I know he's playing and the other dog let's him know when he's had enough and he has been respecting that. He doesn't try to get the smaller dogs food until he leaves the area or take his Milkbone away from him, but I'm afraid this dominance thing is going to change. Even if it doesn't, at the very least he leaves the little dog full of slobber around the neck and ears and matts his hair up. I know it sounds stupid, but it aggrivates me more than the dog.

As a side note, when he began trying to chew the house, I had put cyane pepper on it, which he likes, and I have tried the bitter gels and sprays which he doesn;t like as much, but will lick them a little. As far as chew toys go, we have quite a few out there and the 'puppy' just pulls logs off of the woodpile and chews them.
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What's the best way to get ticks off of a dog, and not leave the tick's head in? We're going camping and Bosco's going with us, so I may have to know soon.









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Walter and Critter,
I didnt forget about you guys , but have been away for awhile. Will get with you soon.


Walter, easist way is not to get them in the first place. Talk with your Vet about a good strong dip.
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