[VN350X10]

it's so cold out here, there's Frost on TARDIS !

[Bullman]

I don't see any problem in shooting 9 mm and drinking......



for some reason that doesn't sound quite right. I better have another N*ppl* Sweat and think that over.

[samurairabbi]

Everyone should believe in something!

I believe I'll have another drink.

[_The_Shadow]

Make mine a double!

[VN350X10]

a double is do-able....

[samurairabbi]

Originally Posted by VN350X10

a double is do-able....

A 10-Ring variation of a Japanese saying about flasks of sake':

The man drinks the first double.
The first double drinks the second double.
The third double drinks the man.

[VN350X10]

Rather like the wisdom given to Bond, by Tiger Tanaka in "You Only Live Twice" while being entertained by the Geshia.
Bond."Tell the old ***** she's a clever old *****"



edit to read "mother dog"

[samurairabbi]

Originally Posted by VN350X10

Rather like the wisdom given to Bond, by Tiger Tanaka in "You Only Live Twice" while being entertained by the Geshia.
Bond."Tell the old ***** she's a clever old *****"



edit to read "mother dog"

I had forgotten that line. It can be a useful one.

[VN350X10]

very

[countrygun]

I would like to announce that a plan that I have been carefully crafting may come to fruition.

I have been looking for a semi-willing accomplice and may have found him.

As you know, if something is published on the internet by person with an "MD" after their name it can well become the next thing to gospel.

I think I have found such a person, who with proper enticement, such as perhaps a week at the Lagoon and suitable quantities of potable beverages, would be willing to sign a report that was "Done by a qualified Research Assistant"

to that end, I (err rather"The Assistant") have prepared most of a report, that reverses a common "cause and effect" phenomenon that we are all aware of. In this report I (err rather "The Assistant) has discovered a correlation between the unique harmonic vibrations and muzzle signature of the .40 S&W and the tendency of male shooters to develop such symptoms as erectile dysfunction, "moobs", fallen arches, insomnia, restless leg syndrome, piles, hives, shingles, shakes shudders, tremors, blurry vision, and an attraction to women with unshaven legs.

Now the end result of this would be a precipitous drop in the purchase and the firing of firearms in said caliber. This, in turn, would lead to a surplus of the component and particularly, immediately 10mm projectiles. It would be no difficult trick to therefore convince the ammo makers to stop wasting these on the dwindling number of .40 shooters and instead, turn them towards 10mm production.

Now I need to see if this would meet with the collective approval of those who make big decisions.

[_The_Shadow]

Confucius say, be very careful in your documentations, as they could backfire substantially! As the direction of the tide of supply could slip out to sea up altogether. It is because of the demands for this short & weak, that keeps the tidal gene pool refreshed with the projectiles to fit the mighty 10!

Settle down with a refreshment and re-think published report's "cause and effect" phenomenon. Swaying the ammo and bullet makers to produce less of other calibers may be beneficial to produce even more in the current caliber till surplus spills out to fill the needs of the super ballistic 10 again!

[Bullman]

Great Scott man, the financial windfalls from that study could be enormous. It would appear as though the findings of your study are correct, at least in my case, because work requires me to carry the .40 S&W and I suffer from nearly all those maladies ( never had a problem with the piles or being attracted to hairy legs ). If we can get that study public, think of all the police officers carrying the .40 that would have potential law suits with government agencies. We need to get the Dungeon Legal Division on this to see if a potential class action suit is a possibility so we can get in on this thing on the ground level.

[countrygun]

Originally Posted by _The_Shadow

Confucius say, be very careful in your documentations, as they could backfire substantially! As the direction of the tide of supply could slip out to sea up altogether. It is because of the demands for this short & weak, that keeps the tidal gene pool refreshed with the projectiles to fit the mighty 10!

Settle down with a refreshment and re-think published report's "cause and effect" phenomenon. Swaying the ammo and bullet makers to produce less of other calibers may be beneficial to produce even more in the current caliber till surplus spills out to fill the needs of the super ballistic 10 again!

Ah but you forget, the study REVERSES the known cause and effect and replaces it with a relationship that is beneficial to the more virile members of society shooting the 10mm. The study will show that the .40 causes those effects rather than, as we all know, those physical conditions, CAUSING shooters to seek out the .40 cal. As we know that completely and totally explains why so many Law Enforcement Administrators and bureaucrats are attracted to the .40S&W.

The lawsuits alone, as Bullman rightly pointed out, will place the blame squarely on the pencil-necked geeks and the chairborne commandos who snarfle everything up with pettifogging regulations and rules that hamstring our working LEOS. Of course those desk jockeys will pass the blame on, but when they get their big checks to offset their expenditures to Maidenform Playtex, Pfizer, and the E-mail ad companies, they will retire and get out of the way.

I see it as a win/win.

[VN350X10]

Huh ?

[countrygun]

Originally Posted by VN350X10

Huh ?

Thank you.

Your apparent confusion has restored my faith in my ability to write reports suitable for Government or political purposes.

Again, Thank You

[VN350X10]

It was like having a parade go by, but only really seeing the guy with the broom & shovel behind the elephants......

[samurairabbi]

Originally Posted by VN350X10

Huh ?

To rephrase CountryGun's response: Comprehension is irrelevant, profitability is the key!

[VN350X10]

Oh, I get it......



MERCHANDISING !

[samurairabbi]

Permit me to venture ONE caution about driving the despised F'caliber into a richly.deserved oblivion. If this were to happen, then all the common rabble 40 shooters would become 10mm shooters. You may ask: Why would this be bad? Because then the special flair and panache of our organization would be diluted by that same common rabble that has converted to our caliber! Sorta like all the Californians bailing out of Cali, and then messing up the states they move to!

This aspect should be considered.

[MinervaDoe]

Originally Posted by samurairabbi

Permit me to venture ONE caution about driving the despised F'caliber into a richly.deserved oblivion. If this were to happen, then all the common rabble 40 shooters would become 10mm shooters. You may ask: Why would this be bad? Because then the special flair and panache of our organization would be diluted by that same common rabble that has converted to our caliber! Sorta like all the Californians bailing out of Cali, and then messing up the states they move to!

This aspect should be considered.

Yup. It bears consideration.
At present, a HUGE advantage of 10mm, is that it is very easy to differnetiate your brass from the other brass strewn about the range.

And then, there is that common rabble thing that you mention. But, as we know, the lowest commmon denominator crowd is easily swayed by trends and fashion, and would soon be off on some newly popularized craze.
So, not to worry.

[countrygun]

Originally Posted by samurairabbi

Permit me to venture ONE caution about driving the despised F'caliber into a richly.deserved oblivion. If this were to happen, then all the common rabble 40 shooters would become 10mm shooters. You may ask: Why would this be bad? Because then the special flair and panache of our organization would be diluted by that same common rabble that has converted to our caliber! Sorta like all the Californians bailing out of Cali, and then messing up the states they move to!

This aspect should be considered.

I considered this very point carefully, but given a large portion of shooters have no clue as to why they shoot the slovenly caliber other than "because the Cops do", I think it is safe to say the FBI results with the noble round, will render it unsuitable in the eyes of the desk jockeys that make decisions in that realm. This being the case, most "civilians", as they are today, will remain in awe of the Magnificent Ten and deem it a tool to be used only by those possessing qualities above that of the commoners such as themselves. As it should be of course.

I do not see the 10mm turning into a substitute for the "F" cal because, if that were the case, the poor misshapen critter would never have seen the light of day.

I am quite sure that the industry will gin up a new toy, perhaps the "9mm Makarov Long"? to catch the attention of both civilians and Police Administrators who have a fascination for new and "shiny" things.

[samurairabbi]

Originally Posted by countrygun

I am quite sure that the industry will gin up a new toy, perhaps the "9mm Makarov Long"? to catch the attention of both civilians and Police Administrators who have a fascination for new and "shiny" things.

It may be possible for the 10-Ring to coin some bucks off copyrighting that new-toy caliber the befuddled rabble takes up after the infatuation with the f'caliber fades. I offer a suggestion: instead of 9mm Mak Long, call it 9mm Makarov Magnum. This would yield the snappy name "9mmmm": much better for merchandizing identity.

[countrygun]

Originally Posted by samurairabbi

It may be possible for the 10-Ring to coin some bucks off copyrighting that new-toy caliber the befuddled rabble takes up after the infatuation with the f'caliber fades. I offer a suggestion: instead of 9mm Mak Long, call it 9mm Makarov Magnum. This would yield the snappy name "9mmmm": much better for merchandizing identity.

I hate to wet blanket a good idea, but we want LE sales to draw folks to it and LE is generally afraid of the word "Magnum". The .357 being the only exception. There were quite a few problems in the 60's and 70's with the .41 for that reason.

I think, if we want to imply something "Special and above the norm. Unlike anything seen before and not to be excelled" I might humbly suggest the "9+mm Countrygun"

Of course I am flexible on that.

[samurairabbi]

Originally Posted by countrygun

I think, if we want to imply something "Special and above the norm. Unlike anything seen before and not to be excelled" I might humbly suggest the "9+mm Countrygun"

Of course I am flexible on that.

Hmmm ... 9mmfullofit is another possibility.

[countrygun]

Originally Posted by samurairabbi

Hmmm ... 9mmfullofit is another possibility.

If that was your way of saying "It might raise expectations to n unattainable level" you may have a point.

Would it be too soon to name it after one of our early departed?