how do I keep Witness brass closer

gofastman · 06-10-2013, 10:03

my Witness Steel just rockets brass out of the ejection port even after the folowing modifications:
-ejector filed down to a nub
-sprinco recoil rod
-18lb recoil spring
-22lb hammer spring
-Hennings FBFPS

the mods make the gun a joy to shoot, but I cant find my damn brass!
Is there anything else I can do?
on a side note, you should have seen this thing in stock form, Im guessing the cases went 40'!!!

ArmoryDoc · 06-10-2013, 10:36

You'll have to go up with a stronger recoil spring yet. Go up until it fails to eject reliably, then back it down until it does.

ETA: You really should replace your ejector that you filed down. The modded ejector affects timing of the brass moving off the breach face and can affect reliability.

gofastman · 06-10-2013, 10:39

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Originally Posted by ArmoryDoc

You'll have to go up with a stronger recoil spring yet. Go up until it fails to eject reliably, then back it down until it does.

ok, but I thought too high of a recoil spring could cause damage on these guns because they return to battery so hard.
I was also told by a respected 1911 'smith that the recoil spring actually does very little to control slide speed under recoil

ArmoryDoc · 06-10-2013, 10:48

There is some truth to that. He would have also told you not to file down your ejector as it messes things up too. The recoil spring can counter "how far and fast" the slide goes into the final stage of recoil before returning to battery. Yes, it can batter the frame. But, you don't get something for nothing. There is a trade-off somewhere.

Do I advise you doing this ? No. Some guns just throw brass. My advice ? Get another gun or download your ammo to bunny-fart loads.

gofastman · 06-10-2013, 10:53

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Get another gun

I think thats my problem! my g20 with compensator attached throws brass about 4' in a perfect little pile.
My super redhawk, well, if that starts throwing brass we have an issue!

ArmoryDoc · 06-10-2013, 11:05

I have a Colt Delta Elite that throws brass about 30'. I know I can start changing things on the gun to affect it but it won't be good for the gun. I either download for practice or hunt brass with mixed success. It's a show-n-tell / hog gun anyway so I can work around the annoyance. Have fun and be safe !

Andrew Wiggin · 06-12-2013, 17:29

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gofastman · 06-13-2013, 16:14

Thanks Andrew, got one ordered up!

Hondo341 · 06-15-2013, 04:29

I just ordered one too.