GlockTalk.com
Home Forums Classifieds Blogs Today's Posts Search Social Groups



  
SIGN-UP
Notices

Glock Talk
Welcome To The Glock Talk Forums.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-13-2000, 17:58   #101
HiCap
Saved by grace
 
HiCap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Posts: 5,320
Hey, lets make this three pages long, whaddaya say?

------------------
Big Dawg #175
HiCap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2000, 04:23   #102
MCNETT
Lifetime Membership
Load Developer
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Pressure testing and loading!
Posts: 2,890
COOL!

------------------
"TO OUTLAW GUNS MEANS THAT ONLY THE OUTLAWS WILL HAVE GUNS"
MCNETT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2000, 08:48   #103
Tazz10m
Mod Aerator
 
Tazz10m's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: On the beach with girls in bikinis
Posts: 6,170
Where are we now? In the process of getting in place a new computer and better CAD/CAM software to streamline the design/mfg process.

We are in the middle of introducing a new tritium night sight that is different than anything on the market... VERY fast, VERY accurate, in any light and even at extended distances... stay tuned...

------------------
Your first and best weapon or tool is always your mind.

Reality always takes precedence.

The only thing that should come between you, and any gun... is comfort. Get Agrip!
Tazz10m is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2000, 10:14   #104
Tamara
Immoderate
 
Tamara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Hoosieropolis
Posts: 3,599
The lights in the mad scientist workshop on Fox Island burn deep into the night, for "invention knows no timeclock". The 10 Ring

------------------
Tamara's House of Weapons: If we can't kill it, it's immortal.
10 Ring #2910, Wheelhouse #6254455, Top Guns *.357sig* club, Big Dawg #447
10mm: When you care enough to send the very best!
Tamara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2000, 06:33   #105
Tazz10m
Mod Aerator
 
Tazz10m's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: On the beach with girls in bikinis
Posts: 6,170
Oh so it's YOU Tam who's been watching me through that telescope from across the water! How's the resolution? I'm looking for a good spotting scope. The 10 Ring It's SO funny you should write that, because that is exactly what i was doing late into last night... designing a new night site... and was/am so amazed at how much consideration was/is going into the exact size of the white dot on the front sight, and the tritium lamp in the middle, and width of the sight, and the shape of the sight, and how the front sight fits into the rear sight, and how all that relates to seeing that front sight against any background, and how to get that elusive ever finer accuracy, faster, easier, more naturally, so that the mind subconsciously lines up the sights, so you can keep your eyes on the TARGET (read "threat") and the front sight is where you want it automatically. I know what i want to design, i even have prototypes... but the specific size relationships of everything are just mind boggling... especially when you have to put it down on paper, and everything is just so small that it is basically impossible to draw at 1:1 scale because the pen lines are so thick, (thin as they are). So, ya draw it bigger, and it looks wrong, even though it's right... AAAAAAakkkkkk..... this, is were the imagination comes in! (...and the ability to make quick easy and cheap prototypes... and loving what you're doing...) I had to force myself to put it all down and go to sleep last night.

Then there's the rear sight.........

The 10 Ring

------------------
Your first and best weapon or tool is always your mind.

Reality always takes precedence.

The only thing that should come between you, and any gun... is comfort. Get Agrip!
Tazz10m is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2000, 16:41   #106
Tamara
Immoderate
 
Tamara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Hoosieropolis
Posts: 3,599
Tazz,

Isn't that why God created CAD programs? The 10 Ring

------------------
Tamara's House of Weapons: If we can't kill it, it's immortal.
10 Ring #2910, Wheelhouse #6254455, Top Guns *.357sig* club, Big Dawg #447
10mm: When you care enough to send the very best!
Tamara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2000, 18:46   #107
TKM
Lifetime Membership
Shiny Member
 
TKM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Just another ball of mud.
Posts: 3,268
Okay, as I see it, you want a sight that naturally draws the eye to the center of the focal area. Have you spoken to the people at the mudflap factory? Two chrome-plated beautys on either side of an "ahhumm" upright center column. It will sell big in truck-stops. Just a thought. Whats the word on the Elvis toilet seat covers? Bah furshlugginer Humbug.

------------------
Happiness is a warm 10.
TKM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2000, 19:25   #108
Tazz10m
Mod Aerator
 
Tazz10m's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: On the beach with girls in bikinis
Posts: 6,170
Tam, there are some things that CAD just can't do... they haven't quite got the Phazi-Psychophysiologic Seconde Guesseur Module (or 3PSGM) dialed in yet... and they don't want to pay me enought to fix it... although i thought i might have overheard something about somebody that was willing to do it for some sushi as long as it was Kosher... geeeeee, now why does THAT sound so familiar?

TKM, the trick to making these babies work is to get RID of the "distractions"...

The 10 Ring

------------------
Your first and best weapon or tool is always your mind.

Reality always takes precedence.

The only thing that should come between you, and any gun... is comfort. Get Agrip!
Tazz10m is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2000, 15:31   #109
CastleBravo
10mm? Woo Hoo!
 
CastleBravo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Posts: 2,636
All this is nice, but will putting an Agrip on my Glock 20C make it too fat? I mean, I love the idea... but it's kind of a borderline case from the girth point of view as it is The 10 Ring

------------------
CastleBravo
10 Ring # 5150
CastleBravo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2000, 18:19   #110
Tazz10m
Mod Aerator
 
Tazz10m's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: On the beach with girls in bikinis
Posts: 6,170
Well, Agrip mic's out at .025" thick and .010" when compressed. Is that too thick? Also, there is an unconditional money back guarantee, as in i will even refund your shipping and handling if you dont like it or whatever.

------------------
Your first and best weapon or tool is always your mind.

Reality always takes precedence.

The only thing that should come between you, and any gun... is comfort. Get Agrip!

[This message has been edited by Tazz10m (edited 12-29-2000).]
Tazz10m is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2001, 06:28   #111
Tamara
Immoderate
 
Tamara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Hoosieropolis
Posts: 3,599
Whew! Just caught it before it dropped off the scope.

Can't let the 10-Ring's version of "The Eternal Flame" get extinguished!

------------------
Tamara's House of Weapons: If we can't kill it, it's immortal.
10 Ring #2910, Wheelhouse #6254455, Top Guns *.357sig* club, Big Dawg #447
MOLON LABE!
Tamara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2001, 09:48   #112
Erich
Senior Member
 
Erich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1998
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico USA
Posts: 1,609
Hey, this is a really interesting thread. I'm just writing because I don't want to see it die. I love bottlenecked rounds: the more extreme, the better.

Let me know when you get it perfected!
cheers, erich
Erich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2001, 14:44   #113
lendringser
Wheelgunner
 
lendringser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Knoxville, Tennessee
Posts: 2,311
Send a message via ICQ to lendringser Send a message via AIM to lendringser Send a message via Yahoo to lendringser
[shameless attempt to rekindle The Post That Would Not Die]

Whatever happened to the sabot idea? You know, .223 bullets in a discarding plastic sabot? The howling from the Dawg Pound would never cease when they get to see the velocity and kinetic energy numbers.(But then again, they're so in love with their slow, heavy, bumbling bricks...)

[/shameless attempt to rekindle The Post That Would Not Die]


------------------
"I will accept any rules that you feel necessary to your freedom. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I
lendringser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2001, 16:31   #114
TKM
Lifetime Membership
Shiny Member
 
TKM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Just another ball of mud.
Posts: 3,268
Just spitballing here. How about a hard(sealing waxish) compound with a gas check. Maybe just for prototypes... I use something similar with paintballs to colorize the pigeons. I had a good idea once, really I did. Honest.

------------------
Happiness is a warm 10.
TKM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2001, 13:12   #115
poochg
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Posts: 1,168
Thought some of you newcommers might like to see a piece of history from the 10 ring. this was a folow up post that went as long or longer then this one!

So Tazz10mm, how is it comming? Just curious!
poochg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2001, 11:58   #116
Fortyfied
Senior Member
 
Fortyfied's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Davis, PRK
Posts: 459


Has a 10mm bottleneck wildcat in .30 carbine been made? Maybe it was tried and failed? The cartridge would look similar to the 357Sig, but would launch a .3065 bullet.

------------------
Big Dawg 870
The 10 Ring 870

[This message has been edited by Fortyfied (edited 05-07-2001).]
Fortyfied is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2001, 15:31   #117
poochg
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Posts: 1,168
People here have talked about using 30 cal to 223 accelerators in the 30 carbine! I have load data for that load, if you want it, if you have bought the accelerators, you probably got the load data.......
poochg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2001, 05:46   #118
Westicle
Canadian... Eh
 
Westicle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 5,305
Send a message via MSN to Westicle


Yes the .30 Cal Bottle neck Cartridge has been made by a Fellow in British Columbia Canada.

It is called the .30 Armco "The .30Armco, by the way, is a 10mm case necked down, firing a 110grain .308 varmint bullet at 1850fps from a 5" 1911!"

The 10 Ring

Check out his web Site at ARMCO GUNS



------------------
Proud TO BE CANADIAN
Big Dawg #403 (G21C)
Niner #403 (G17)
Wheelhouse #403 (617-1/SBH .44)
Westicle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2001, 17:27   #119
G33
CLM Number 296
Re-Assigned
 
G33's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: With G29
Posts: 57,040


Oooooooooh!
Looks like the .357 Sig on steroids.
G33 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2001, 07:03   #120
Tazz10m
Mod Aerator
 
Tazz10m's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: On the beach with girls in bikinis
Posts: 6,170
Well, there is always the "other alternative" which is to use the 30 Armco brass and barrel, then load them up with 30-223 sabots... which theoretically will work, but, if a bottle necked cartridge is going to be used, why not neck it all the way down to .223? Reason: we want to use the stock 10mm barrel and cases. (That 30 Armco really is cool though! The 10 Ring )

------------------
Your first and best weapon or tool is always your mind.

Reality always takes precedence.

The only thing that should come between you, and any gun... is comfort. Get Agrip!
Tazz10m is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2001, 07:53   #121
Rusty Phillips
Senior Member
 
Rusty Phillips's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1998
Location: Southeast
Posts: 6,178
you know - all this talk about & waiting for sabots has really gotten to me.

i just cant stand it anymore.

i want to load something.

SO,

im going to take some Speer 50 grain TNT's and wrap the bullets up as tightly as i can in teflon pipe tape until they are about .452-.460 inches, and then stuff them into 45 acp cases full of bullseye and cut them loose in my 625.

if i had a 610 id try to do this in 10mm but i dont so i wont.

i figure at least we can start experimenting with quasi saboted 223's in our 10's and 45's.

probably a 610 (or 625) would allow some of the load development to progress without having to worry about slide velocity and automatic function of the G20.

we can sort all that out later IF we get sabots.

STOP THE MADNESS! somebody give me some sabots before do something really foolish - please!
Rusty Phillips is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2001, 09:02   #122
Tazz10m
Mod Aerator
 
Tazz10m's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: On the beach with girls in bikinis
Posts: 6,170
Rusty, maybe you could find a .45 sabot and wrap the bullet, stuff it, and slit the teflon tape so that it peals away on exit. This way you have sabot against the barrel rather than teflon tape. Teflon tape against the barrel might expand and cause a pressure spike, but i have no idea.

------------------
Your first and best weapon or tool is always your mind.

Reality always takes precedence.

The only thing that should come between you, and any gun... is comfort. Get Agrip!
Tazz10m is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2001, 15:52   #123
poochg
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Posts: 1,168
A barrel/cylinder gap is less then ideal for shooting sabots! (be very carefull)

poochg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2001, 15:52   #124
poochg
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Posts: 1,168




[This message has been edited by poochg (edited 05-12-2001).]
poochg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2001, 04:33   #125
Tamara
Immoderate
 
Tamara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Hoosieropolis
Posts: 3,599
Has anyone converted a 610 to .40-44 Woodswalker yet?

10mm 150gr Sierras @ 2400ish fps sounds intrigueing... The 10 Ring

------------------
Come say "Hi!" at my neighborhood gun shop!
10 Ring #2910, Wheelhouse #6254455, Big Dawg #447
MOLON LABE!
Tamara is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:18.



Homepage
FAQ
Forums
Calendar
Advertise
Gallery
GT Wiki
GT Blogs
Social Groups
Classifieds


Users Currently Online: 989
324 Members
665 Guests

Most users ever online: 2,244
Nov 11, 2013 at 11:42