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Old 09-07-2005, 16:03   #41
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I'd still be speaking with a limey accent
Trust me mate, the Yank birds LOVE IT when I'm over there. I have a much better "success rate" with the ladies in the US than I do at home, thanks to my accent. Gotta love them American girls!
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Old 09-07-2005, 16:06   #42
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weird, i do better abroad also. damn home grown chicks.
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Old 09-07-2005, 16:08   #43
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Can't argue with that!! ;Y

Tell you what I do carry now - The surefire torch. What a fantastic bit of Yank engineering. Without doubt THE best torch I have ever used. Fantastic for area searches and a brilliant bit of kit!
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Old 09-07-2005, 16:11   #44
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^1 being in the military for a while i will say there are two people i could never drink with, brits and aussies.;f
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Old 09-07-2005, 16:13   #45
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^1 being in the military for a while i will say there are two people i could never drink with, brits and aussies.;f

Yeah, we do like a drink, or 50. ;g
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Old 09-07-2005, 16:13   #46
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not even a gun in the "boot" of your car?
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Old 09-07-2005, 16:16   #47
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No, certainly not. When off duty, firearms officers are subject to the same laws as the public. At the end of their shift their weapons (H&K MP5 and Sig) are put securely back into the armoury.

Like I said, I NEVER carry a gun, not even on duty. I am not a firearms authorized officer. Just a regular cop. Cuffs, CS and ASP is all I carry
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i think i'll load a few 30rd mags for my ar15 on sept 10th, just in case.
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Old 09-07-2005, 16:23   #49
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This may give you an idea of what it's like.....

4 years old now, but still relevent. SEE HERE

As an edit to that link, Tasers are now used by most UK police forces. At the moment they are only issued to firearms trained officers, but I can see them being generally issued in the future.
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Old 09-07-2005, 16:30   #50
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the best non-lethal force is racking of a 12 gauge pump shotgun. all kidding aside i think the book by dr. john lott would show you (not that you don't know already) that more guns does equal less crime. i guess us americans just like our guns.
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that was a very interesting read. it's amazing with all our similarities that were still very different.
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Well, I'm not sure I'd agree with that, but hey, life would be boring of everyone agreed, wouldn't it?! lol!

Bed time for me. Maybe we'll continue with this later......

Good night. ;f
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that was a very interesting read. it's amazing with all our similarities that were still very different.

You've hit the nail on the head there my friend! Exactly my original point.
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2 Questions please.
How would you expect a 75 year old lady to defend herself?
Do you honestly believe that if someone feels it important to protect their own lives, and the lives of their loved ones, and are willing to undergo psychological tests, and receive extensive training, they still should not be allowed to carry tools of self defense?
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How would you expect a 75 year old lady to defend herself?
What does this have to do with guns?

My own grandmother was mugged about 7 years ago. She was struck by a drug addict from behind who stole her bag to get his next fix.
The guy was caught by the police and imprisoned. Are you saying she should have been able to carry a gun, just in case Mickey Mugger might decide to pick her as his next victim? Absolute rubbish. Bad people target the most vulnerable members of society in every country, not just here. The difference is, you're much more likely to get mugged by an armed mugger in the US than you are here.

We did have the right to have guns here, although only for recreational use, not self protection. ALL weapons had to be kept in gun safes which were regularly checked by police during spot check inspections. If a hand gun was ever found on a bedside table, loaded and ready to go, the owner could expect a huge fine, loss of gun licence, and maybe even a stay at Her Majesty's hotel.
The reasons those rights were taken away have already been stated. It was deemed that the risks were too great.
So you don't agree with it. Fine. But it was a universally popular decision and it had the full support of the population. Like I said, you have your rules we have ours.

Like they say in the US, "love it or leave it"

To be honest I get sick and tired of people slagging my country off. If they don't agree with our rules, fine, don't come here. Just remember the ones who are always the first to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with America when it all kicks off, even when it puts us in the firing line of the terrorists. Why do we do it? Simple. It's the right thing to do.

Guns simply are not part of life for the vast majority of people in the UK and that is the difference. A good example of where the wheels fall off is the recent events in New Orleans. We've all seen the images on TV where criminals were engaging police and military in open street gunfights. Not a good situation, and one I am grateful we never see here.

Like I said, I'm not here to critise US laws. I love America. I enjoy visiting it, and find the people to be one of the warmest, friendliest bunch of folks anywhere in the world. I'm simply trying to set the record straight after reading some of the previous posts.

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What does this have to do with guns?

Everything.
If a criminal knows that the victim might be carrying a firearm, and/or able to defend themselves they will think twice before attacking.

I posted two questions, as I am interested in your opinion as a British subject, and police officer.
If you have the time, would you please answer them.
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Yeah, ok. I'll post later as I'm off out now.
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Old 09-11-2005, 16:24   #59
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Not ALL Brits are anti gun!

This one is VERY pro gun. A lot of my friends also would not only like their weapons back but the right to use them for self defense!

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The reasons those rights were taken away have already been stated. It was deemed that the risks were too great.
So you don't agree with it. Fine. But it was a universally popular decision and it had the full support of the population. Like I said, you have your rules we have ours.
The ban sure as hell didn't get MY support. No way was it a "universally popular decision".:(

The UK has changed forever and I don't think the gun laws, or the "rights to self defense" will ever change back. Time for my family and I to leave the country. Which is exectly what we are doing.

There are a lot of Brits who feel the same as I, hey some of them are living in the US right now ;? Don't think that all Brits are bleeding heart liberals who would rather talk to the BG's and try to see their point of view ;5 Talk maybe cheap but .45's are more cost effective



Off the box now, have a nice day. TTFN...
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Re: Not ALL Brits are anti gun!

[QUOTE]Time for my family and I to leave the country. Which is exectly what we are doing.QUOTE]

Bye then.

FYI, I'm not anti gun. As I have already said, I enjoy hunting. I have both a shotgun licence and a firearms licence.
I own a bolt action hunting rifle which I use to hunt deer, and a shotgun which I use in competitions.
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