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Old 03-17-2012, 13:43   #161
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Tater, I went back and highlighted the section where I was eluding to what you are stating about the ball type bullets.

I have shot some of my cast bullets, but haven't tried to drive them very fast in the 9x25Dillon but have hit 1400 fps in both 357Sig and 9x25Dillon with the cast LEE 122 gr TC using the Red Zambini lube with little to no leading.
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Old 03-22-2012, 20:19   #162
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Making 9x25 ammo

Show and tell ...
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Old 03-22-2012, 20:39   #163
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Whoa. That is some productivity!
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Old 03-22-2012, 20:49   #164
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Whoa. That is some productivity!
About 100 rounds in 4ish minutes at that rate.. Usually I stop every primer fill and size check a bunch of them as the primers fill up on the primer loader.
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Old 03-22-2012, 21:05   #165
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Wyle.E.Kyote, Dat dare is too fancy for my slow pace cajun world...I still do'em one at a time. But thanks for showin' us how its done!
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Old 03-22-2012, 21:29   #166
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About 100 rounds in 4ish minutes at that rate..
Awesome setup...I can easily out perform that above rate on my 550B.
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Old 03-26-2012, 18:34   #167
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The 9x25Dillon and 357Sig can use the 0.355"/9mm/38Super bullets, I use the 0.355" & 0.356" mostly however there was some who used the 0.357" bullets for the 357 magnum, your chamber/bore/free bore could be too tight for these only measurements and testing will show.

There are bullets specific to the 357Sig, that will work well because their construction is such that they will work better for the velocity range and neck tension to avoid setback issues. Some of the 9mm bullets have the ogive that extends too low down the sides of the bullets, these should be avoided for setback issues.

The 9x25 Dillon case can be had from Double Tap Ammo with proper head stamps, I talked to Star Line to make some with proper head stamps and it was cost prohibitive with the setup fess and order lot.
The cases can be made properly from 10mm cases using the Dillon Dies. Attention to headspacing is critical when setting the sizing die. Headspaced flush to the barrel hood 0.00&quot; or < 0.02&quot; below seem to work great, any less and neck seperations or splitting can occur. There is not too much load data for the 9x25Dillons and GlockTalk probably has the most to study.

The 357Sig has specific casings and are easily obtainable. Trying to make them from 40S&W cases leaves them too short...there is plenty of loading data for the 357Sig.

I will say that the 357Sig and 9x25Dillon are not for the first time handloader. There are things that experience loaders will understand and look out for making these cartridges. Please read this entire section to get the best feel for the 9x25Dillons.

Best regards and good luck to you if you need help please ask! I'm sure we caould help!
Thank you for the info.
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Old 04-13-2012, 08:53   #168
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Well just got out the old barrel bag and dusted off the 9x25 just wanted to add its a lot more fun when your firearms cycles them properly. Finally got my head spacing adjusted, and added a 23lb recoil spring. The gun shoots like a champ and It is surprisingly accurate. Anybody have much luck with power pistol and 115. Just started shooting cast and I have 1k rn 115, and 8lb of pp ready to go. I like my loads warm but not ridiculous.


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Old 04-13-2012, 10:47   #169
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Usmcfox, I tested the following...Post #47 in this section. I tested with Blue Dot for the cast bullets, but here is rhe Power Pistol with a 121 jacketed bullet.

Zero 121.0 gr JHP 0.356” 1.255”
Power Pistol 10.2 gr CCI 350
Velocity 1592-1620 fps
Primers flat, lot of firing pin smear
It was 100 gergees that day.

Be sure to check on the barrel to see if you get leading to see where you stand.

Good luck and let us know how it works out!
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Old 05-10-2012, 17:45   #170
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9x25Dillon Underwood Ammo Heads Up

It seems Underwood is venturing into the 9x25 Dillon ammo, he has spots on the website for FMJ and Gold Dot...

http://www.underwoodammo.com/9x25mmdillon.aspx

This may get more people interested in this cartridge!
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Old 05-10-2012, 21:39   #171
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It seems Underwood is venturing into the 9x25 Dillon ammo, he has spots on the website for FMJ and Gold Dot...

http://www.underwoodammo.com/9x25mmdillon.aspx

This may get more people interested in this cartridge!
Thanks for the link Shadow. Looks and sounds like they make "real" good ammo.

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Old 06-05-2012, 02:22   #172
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I just picked up a barrel in 9x25 and was wondering what you guys crimped this round to? I read the entire thread and couldn't find a definative number. I loaded up some 115grain XTP test rounds ranging from 10.2gr to 11.0gr of longshot but have yet to crimp them as I couldn't find any crimp measurements. Can't wait to take it out to the range, sounds like a FUN round.

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Old 06-05-2012, 07:53   #173
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Fred1980, to the forum!
What dies are you using to crimp with? Dillon 9x25? LEE 357Sig? Other?

I use the Dillion 9x25 die set for size, seat and crimp. I set my taper crimp die to squeeze down till I see a shine develop on the case mouth. But I also test that bullets do not move in or out, neck tension is crucial to prevent bullet setback.

I use a LEE FCD with the guts removed as a "Pass Thru Die" to recondition all semiauto brass, this includes the 9x25's. I also use either my RCBS 9mm neck expander or LEE 357Sig neck expander to true the neck for uniformity. These do a great job with out over expanding so the neck tension is retained.

If you look thru the data you'll see where I pulled down some Double Tap rounds and listed the powder charges with LongShot.

Best regards, be sure to list you findings here as well!
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Old 06-09-2012, 09:27   #174
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I just got my dillon all set up to pump out 9x25 dillon ammo. Set up to load 90gr gold dots with longshot.
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Old 06-09-2012, 12:48   #175
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What dies are you using to crimp with? Dillon 9x25? LEE 357Sig? Other?

I use the Dillion 9x25 die set for size, seat and crimp. I set my taper crimp die to squeeze down till I see a shine develop on the case mouth. But I also test that bullets do not move in or out, neck tension is crucial to prevent bullet setback.

I use a LEE FCD with the guts removed as a "Pass Thru Die" to recondition all semiauto brass, this includes the 9x25's. I also use either my RCBS 9mm neck expander or LEE 357Sig neck expander to true the neck for uniformity. These do a great job with out over expanding so the neck tension is retained.

If you look thru the data you'll see where I pulled down some Double Tap rounds and listed the powder charges with LongShot.

Best regards, be sure to list you findings here as well!
Thanks Shadow, got your response and suggestions on the other forum. I was looking to just pick up a LEE 357 sig expander die for when I start cranking out this caliber in my progressive and can't find anywhere that sells just the Lee 357 sig expander die. That got me to thinking so I took apart my Lee 40s&w/10MM expander die and my lee 9mm expander die and the 9MM expander plug slips right into the 10mm expander die . Seems to work good to, I haven't used it yet in the progressive as I'm still in the load development stage for my gun but it seems like that is what Lee did to make their 357 sig expander. Has anyone used this setup before?

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EDIT: Are there any other Lee Charging/expanding dies that could work for the 9x25 dillon? Maybe Lee 38 Super or the 357 Mag expander? I would prefer not to have to take apart both my 10mm & 9MM dies when wanting to load the 9x25 and just have a die specifically for the caliber.

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Old 07-01-2012, 20:48   #176
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Had a chance to test out some loads after finally finishing fitting the 6" barrel and long slide on my 1911. Tested out 90gr 115gr XTP's and I was actually pretty impressed with it very accurate and flat shooter. Once I got the adjustable sight sighted in I was shooting at a 10" gong at 40yrds and hitting it consistently. Forgot the bring a battery for my new chrono so wasn't able to get any velocities but I'll do that next weekend when I go out again . Did strings of 5 on both loads going up in 0.2gr increments. Started the 90gr XTP's at 10.4gr and went all the way up to 12.2gr, no bulged cases with slightly flattened primers on the 12.2gr load, probably stick with the last load once I get velocities on them. Recoil felt about the same amount of recoil on my 6" long slide 9x25 compared to my 5" 45ACP, might have to do with the longe rslide being a bit heavier plus I was running a 22LBS recoil spring on the 9x25 versus the standard 18lbs on the 45. Did the same 5 shot strings with the 115gr XTP's andstarted at 10.2gr and went all the way to 11.0gr. Probably stick to10.6 to 10.8gr once I get velocities as the 11.0gr loads had VERY flattened primers. Recoil on the 115gr XTP's at 10.6gr and up wer enoticeably more than the 230gr 45acp I was also shooting. I also ran the same 22lbs recoil spring on the 115gr but might experiment with the 20lbs & 24lbs springs I also have later.

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Old 07-01-2012, 21:12   #177
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Sounds like you're getting things dialed in, I wish you had your CHRONY running.
I'm taking that this was LongShot powder for your loads.
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Old 07-05-2012, 00:56   #178
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Sounds like you're getting things dialed in, I wish you had your CHRONY running.
I'm taking that this was LongShot powder for your loads.
Yeah, was running longshot with CCI 350 magnum primers.

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Old 07-24-2012, 01:16   #179
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Update. Here are the numbers I got after loading up some 90gr XTP and 115gr XTP's.

6" Barrel 1911
90grain XTP
CCI 350 Primer
12.0 Grains Longshot
2059 FPS 10-Shot Average
37.25 ES
17.06 SD
847 Ft Lbs. Based on Average

No pressure signs on the brass, happy with this load so that's what I'm going to stick with for the 90gr XTP's.

6" Barrel 1911
115grain XTP
CCI 350 Primer
10.8 Grains Longshot
1764 FPS 10-Shot Average
25.83 ES
12.47 SD
794 Ft. Lbs. Based on Average

No pressure signs on this brass also but really was wanting to push the 115XTP's to over 1800 FPS. Probably load up some at 11.0gr and 11.2 gr and see where that takes me.

Ordered some 124gr XTP's and will work up a load based on some of the findings in this thread. Looking to get the 124's up to 1725-1750 FPS...

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Old 07-24-2012, 09:41   #180
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Man I need to get a longer barrel for this cartridge...
I have one being made for my S&W, but someday I'll get a Glock 20 4th gen and some barrels.
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