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Old 09-17-2014, 16:57   #1
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School Police giving up Grenade Launchers

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...917-story.html
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Old 09-17-2014, 17:14   #2
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Is it something to launch a fragmentation grenade or a tear gas grenade?
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Old 09-17-2014, 17:37   #3
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I would assume they were intended for tear gas deployment, not for blowing things up.
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Old 09-17-2014, 18:05   #4
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Actually, the article is wrong. It isn't LA, it's Berkely and they use it to disperse deodorant through the school quads.
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Old 09-17-2014, 18:07   #5
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LOL.....nice way the imply they will be used for grenades. At least they didn't call the armored vehicle a tank.
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Old 09-17-2014, 18:11   #6
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Every school should have at least one grenade launcher c'mon!
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Old 09-17-2014, 18:11   #7
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Old 09-17-2014, 18:46   #8
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Why? Of all the police you'd want to be armed with the right gear for barricaded suspects with hostages (things like "grenade launchers") I'd think the school police would be at the top of the list.

Let me guess, lefty Kalifornians would rather leave their kids locked in with a hostage taker than have the police in possession of a scary-looking "military" weapon?
Typical.
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Old 09-17-2014, 18:48   #9
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Every school should have at least one grenade launcher c'mon!
One thing they clearly do have - plenty of people too dumb to know what the "grenade launcher" is for or why the school police should be among the first to have one.


...wait...you're not one of them are you?
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Old 09-17-2014, 18:48   #10
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What was left unreported was that Berkley is trading those grenade launchers for RPGs.
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Old 09-17-2014, 18:49   #11
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We use 40mm for spin stabilized impact rounds. Sounds foolish to me. Especially if they are going with 12ga or 37mm. We had those. They sucked. They are probably giving them up for tasers or an agency with balls to bail them out.
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Old 09-17-2014, 19:12   #12
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Wait a minute - could this article be about something like this?

The Okie Corral


That would be a bit underwhelming.
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Old 09-17-2014, 21:03   #13
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LOL.....nice way the imply they will be used for grenades. At least they didn't call the armored vehicle a tank.
It's "a rolling public relations vehicle".

When I was a kid, they had to throw the grenades at us.
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Old 09-18-2014, 07:21   #14
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It's "a rolling public relations vehicle".

When I was a kid, they had to throw the grenades at us.
That was a long time agao - the police have been launching their gas grenades at least since the 60's.
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It is not the equipment they have -

It is the complete lack of judgment on when to use it that is the problem.
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It is not the equipment they have -

It is the complete lack of judgment on when to use it that is the problem.
Police should be required to visit GNG, where posters will tell you they can do better police work than the police!
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Old 09-18-2014, 07:40   #17
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When I was a kid, they had to throw the grenades at us.
A few years after the invention of slingshots, throwing by hand went out of style.
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Old 09-18-2014, 07:46   #18
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Here is part of what people don't get about this stuff.

Say a police department needs a riot vehicle. They need something with more armor than a standard police car. So they shop around for (let's say) something like an uparmored Hummer.

Then, the DOD says they have this thing that is WAY more armored than an uparmored Hummer. And it is free. So, for free they get something that is much more capable than anything they could buy. Maintenance and wear-and-tear isn't a huge deal - this thing will probably only be used once a year at most anyway.

So they take the #### out of it. I would too.

And the "grenade launchers" are probably for gas, beanbag rounds, stuff like that. Doubt they have any HE or Fragmentation rounds.
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Old 09-18-2014, 07:47   #19
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One thing they clearly do have - plenty of people too dumb to know what the "grenade launcher" is for or why the school police should be among the first to have one.
I'm all for it, but I'd be curious to know:

1) How long have they had them?
2) How many officers qualified?
3) At what interval do they maintain proficiency?
4) What are the qualification standards?

You could equip the school band with all-the-very-best musical instruments, but they're not gonna go rock the Garden...

Yes, not even if you threw them onto the stage and told them, "It's your moment, rise to the occasion."
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Maintenance and wear-and-tear isn't a huge deal - this thing will probably only be used once a year at most anyway.
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