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Old 04-04-2014, 07:12   #21
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My 2 cents worth...357 from a snubbie is way stout, 38+P will work just fine from a J frame....that being said, AND a revolver devotee, I'd recommend a small 9mm pocket gun, S&W Shield, Ruger LC9, Taurus as well as others make a small 9mm as well. 9mm ammo is cheaper than revolver ammo to practice with and will also work in your full size house gun. Small guns are harder to shoot well. The J frame guns are really for pistoleros who practice, practice. Get a 9mm, NOT a .380-that ammo is too expensive!
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Old 04-04-2014, 21:18   #22
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I have been pocket carrying the new LCR-X with the hammer inside of a Blackhawk pocket holster and find it pretty much... AWESOME!
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Old 04-05-2014, 03:22   #23
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Been carrying a S&W 442 for years. Carries well in a pocket or on my ankle. It's my go to BUG or discreet carry gun.
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Old 04-05-2014, 10:54   #24
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My 2 cents worth...357 from a snubbie is way stout, 38+P will work just fine from a J frame....that being said, AND a revolver devotee, I'd recommend a small 9mm pocket gun, S&W Shield, Ruger LC9, Taurus as well as others make a small 9mm as well. 9mm ammo is cheaper than revolver ammo to practice with and will also work in your full size house gun. Small guns are harder to shoot well. The J frame guns are really for pistoleros who practice, practice. Get a 9mm, NOT a .380-that ammo is too expensive!
I don't own a revolver so it's part of the purpose to own one. I want .357 for that ability to shoot both calibers but the .38 would be the target ammo and .357 in hollow points.
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Old 04-05-2014, 18:39   #25
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I'll recommend the Ruger LCR. I looked at one really hard a few years ago but went with the heaver and longer barreled 3" SP101, I've kicked myself a few times 'cause it fit the same role as the LCR.

Anyway, the LCR loaded with .357 Gold Dot Short Barrel loads sounds like the way to go, IMO.
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Old 04-05-2014, 18:51   #26
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I wish like hell Ruger would make a 2.5 or 3" LCR/X.
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Old 04-06-2014, 18:45   #27
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I've found the LCR 357 is a handy little gun to carry in a coat pocket. The enclosed hammer prevents snagging and permits firing from the pocket in dire circumstances. The 357 allows a greater selection of ammo options including hot 38spl rounds I usually keep in the gun.

I had a LCR 38+P but found it's recoil was harsh. The LCR 357's 3.6oz heavier stainless steel monolithic frame mitigates recoil somewhat. In any event, these light weight revolvers serve their self defense purpose but a comfortable range gun they are not.

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To expand on this just a little, before Sandy Hook and Colorado, I would never even have considered a snub .357 like the Ruger Lcr .357. However, owning a 442 already and seeing the .38 at the time literally vanish overnight for such a long period of time, I began to see the wisdom of having a snub (even a very light one) that could also shoot .357 mag so I'd have the ability to use my existing .357 mag inventory in the event the .38 I have became exhausted and vice versa.
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Old 04-06-2014, 19:26   #28
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I bought a .38 +p model in 2012 and carried it everyday till I bought a G23. I sold it a few months ago because I needed quick cash. I seriously regret selling it. That little thing was so nice and easy to carry. The trigger was awesome, super smooth. I put a night sight on it and it was extremely accurate. I repetitively shot a hockey pick from about 20 yards. The "U" notch on the back and XS night sight is a very good combo. Iwb carried in a Blackhawk tuckable holster was really nice, I could drop it in my inside pocket in my carhartt coat and you'd never know it was there. It did have a little kick with + p ammo but not to bad. I paid $420 nib at a pawn shop. My only complaint is its gone.
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Old 04-06-2014, 23:07   #29
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Between the fine trigger and the front sight options, the LCR is easily the most shootable pocket revolver, I think. The trigger is so easy to stage, there's no real need for the exposed hammer for slow, deliberate fire. Ruger really needs to adapt the LCR trigger to some other revolvers.
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Old 04-07-2014, 06:29   #30
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Ruger LCR ive yet to see a snubby with a better trigger out of the box..when im shooting a DAO and weight is at least close to the same id always go with the better trigger and unfortunately for S&W they dont have as good a trigger as the Ruger...sure,sure you can spend extra after you get one and have work dont on it...but id just as soon have it done when i get it .
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Old 04-07-2014, 09:52   #31
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Old 04-07-2014, 12:33   #32
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I do not find 357 rounds an issue in the lcr. I did in my j frame.
Is that with the Hogue factory grip? That thing helps tremendously with recoil, but was too bulky for pocket carry and the rubber grips made it hard to draw as well. At least for me.
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Old 04-07-2014, 13:38   #33
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Is that with the Hogue factory grip? That thing helps tremendously with recoil, but was too bulky for pocket carry and the rubber grips made it hard to draw as well. At least for me.

No with the boot grip. I stippled it as well

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Old 04-07-2014, 13:50   #34
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Most people will probably suggest the S&W 642.

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=199


They are right.

I agree with Chute The Mall. ^^^
If you're not familiar with the S&W 642, it's light-weight, about 15 oz. and it has a concealed hammer, nothing to snag on the material of your pocket.
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Old 04-07-2014, 14:34   #35
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S&W 342 ti

I've got a S&W 342 ti Centennial 38+P that's outstanding for pocket carry.
It's 11.1 oz empty.
And 13.5 oz loaded with Speer's outstanding Short Barrel GDHP 135 gr ammo.
So light and small I sometimes forget it's in my pocket.
Draws clean and effortlessly from a DeSantis Nemesis.
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Old 04-07-2014, 14:46   #36
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The LCR is a great revolver. I had a tough time carrying mine in a pocket because of the somewhat large rubber grips. Drawing from the pocket was pretty rough IMO. While they were comfortable to shoot with, the larger grips made pocket carry difficult.
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Old 04-07-2014, 14:52   #37
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I wouldn't bother with 357 out of a short barrel. You lose too much velocity and greatly increase felt recoil and muzzle flash.
Excellent advice. Stick with .38

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Old 04-07-2014, 15:32   #39
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Air Weight Revolvers run best with 38 +P

My take on Snubbie performance -
Major Manufacturers Full Power 357 Magnum 125 gr.
4" ~1450 fps
3" ~1300 fps -150
2" ~1200 fps -250

Remington Golden Saber Medium Velocity 357 Magnum 125 gr.
4" ~1220 fps
3" ~1190 fps -30
2" ~1100 fps -120

Run Sabers in my S&W SS 65-3 3" and 640-1 2.125" K and J Frames.
I get the best performance, recover-ability and accuracy in the SS guns.
But an Air Weight J Frame?
38 +P all the way (Speer SB GSHP 135 gr P+).

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Old 04-07-2014, 15:54   #40
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Another vote for the 642 in .38Spl. I prefer pre-lock models. YMMV. tom.
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