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Old 03-27-2014, 11:38   #41
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I'm sure I'll change my mind a bunch of times, but I'm leaning towards getting a G41, and if I like the .45 acp (I will I'm sure), I will purchase a G30s to replace my G27 as my primary carry. I'm a smaller person, medium hands at best, I hear both of these have better grips for a person such as myself.
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Old 03-27-2014, 12:07   #42
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I'm sure that you'll like the G41--it fits the same holster I use for my G34 at matches.

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Old 03-27-2014, 13:03   #43
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I like the idea of a 1911, they're sweet guns to be sure, but I'm not a really big person and I don't think I would every be able to comfortably carry one. As for the H&K's, I would love to give one a try, I hear nothing but good things, but they're a little on the pricey side from what I've seen... I'm thinking the G30s is the ticket but I agree with most of you, I really need to try them out first. Only problem is I don't have a rental range anywhere around here so I'll have to find people at the range willing to let me try out their gun.. On the other hand I'd love to have the 21 just because it's THE glock .45 acp, or the 41 for that matter because I absolutely love my 35..

I need more money...that would make my decision much easier. I am accepting donations, lol.
A 1911 is going to be much easier for a smaller person to conceal that a .45 Glock, with the possible exception of the G36.
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Old 03-27-2014, 13:08   #44
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I don't think there is a "Do it all" pistol.
unless you mean "Closest thing to a Do it all" ???
That's very subjective....
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Old 03-27-2014, 16:36   #45
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So far I'm pleased with the performance of my new G30S. I had been waiting to get my hands on one since last September and have had it now for one week. I ran some Federal HST 230 grain defensive loads through the gun with remarkable success and accuracy.
Since this is my only experience with a Glock pistol in .45acp, I can't say it is the best of the lot.
But I am quite pleased with the gun.
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Old 03-28-2014, 09:03   #46
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G30S if carrying, G21 otherwise. Easy as that.


Now, non-Glock, Sig P227 or HK45 would be my top choices.
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Old 03-28-2014, 13:30   #47
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I see lots of folks saying the G21 isn't good for concealed carry.

Funny, because mine does just fine.

Good luck in your choice!

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Old 03-28-2014, 13:46   #48
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If I were going to buy one, do it all 45ACP pistol, I would have to look at a Gen 4 G30. I have owned a Gen 3 for several years and it has been great. I have shot two G30S models and in all honesty, didn't shoot them as well as the Gen 3 ( but I have relatively large hands). IMO, the Gen 4 is the best all around model 30 due to the repalaceable backstraps to fit different sized hands.

If price is not as much a factor, I would also consider something along the lines of the HK45 or HK45C.
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Old 03-28-2014, 14:49   #49
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So far I'm pleased with the performance of my new G30S. I had been waiting to get my hands on one since last September and have had it now for one week. I ran some Federal HST 230 grain defensive loads through the gun with remarkable success and accuracy.
Since this is my only experience with a Glock pistol in .45acp, I can't say it is the best of the lot.
But I am quite pleased with the gun.
I 've had my 30s for two weeks now, sold the 36 to fund the 30s and have no regrets, I can use my G21 mags for back up. This is a great shooting compact .45
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Old 03-28-2014, 19:12   #50
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Gen3 vs Gen4, Living in a state dominated by Senator Lee http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...ype-fbi-sting/ I have never touched a Gen4.

Gen3 normal vs. Gen3SF: FOR ME the SF feels more comfortable BUT, I shoot better with the NON-SF. I have larger than average hands. YMMV.

G21: Some think it is too big. Will handle .45 super with spring change (and in an emergency without the spring change IMHO). Conversion barrels to 460 Rowland.
G30: Same as G21 with a shorter barrel & grip, will take the same conversions.
G30s: Some claim the about 0.0000000000000000001mm (not sure of the exact size..... never cared) slimmer slide convert the impossible to CCW G30 to the perfect CC weapon. I have never heard of any way to convert it to any other caliber. Reviews seem to be mixed, some have no problems at all and some seem to not be able to make theirs work at all no matter what they do.
G36: Single Stack, slimmer than any others but the same caliber limitations as the G30s. As an alternative to a Colt Commander class CCW it is an option, If you feel you will run up against dozens of opponents you don't want any singe stack.
G41: Too new to know for sure, If you like long slides it is an option. It will have the same caliber limitations as the 30s/36. I like the feel/look of the long slide but prefer the 6" to the 5.3" "Tactical/Practical". It is reported it does work with the G34/35 holsters.

YOU take your pick.
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Old 03-28-2014, 23:42   #51
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Everyone needs at least one Glock 21.
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Old 03-29-2014, 01:59   #52
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As my username would imply: the G30s. 11rds of .45acp in a gun that's very damn close in size/weight to Glock's other "do it all gun" (in 9mm), the G19.


I have both.
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Old 03-29-2014, 04:18   #53
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Old 03-30-2014, 19:23   #54
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Best "do-it-all"? Without a doubt, the Glock 30 series. My vote would be the 30s because it is easier to conceal than the full width slide on the 30, 30sf, and Gen4.
I wouldn't think 1/10'' thickness would make a difference in concealing and if it does your clothes are much too tight.
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I wouldn't think 1/10'' thickness would make a difference in concealing and if it does your clothes are much too tight.
Haven't you been reading GT for the last year? That 1/10" is the difference between a firearm that no one has ever been able to CC (not even in an arctic parka) to the perfect CC firearm that can even be concealed in a speedo!
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Old 03-30-2014, 22:16   #56
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I love my Gen 3 G21......should I slash my wrists? I'm looking for a Gen 4 G30s. I think this is is best of many great options. What do I know? What do you think...OP?
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Old 03-30-2014, 22:44   #57
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I'm sure I'll change my mind a bunch of times, but I'm leaning towards getting a G41, and if I like the .45 acp (I will I'm sure), I will purchase a G30s to replace my G27 as my primary carry. I'm a smaller person, medium hands at best, I hear both of these have better grips for a person such as myself.
You'll like it. The G41 shoots real nice. I personally think the G21 shoots better, but the G41 sure is fun. I'm sure it carries better, and it does point better.

As for my opinion on the best do-it-all .45? It's, without a doubt, the Glock 30 for size and caliber options. If you don't care about shooting any other calibers, then it's the G30S. However, my favorite is the G21 Gen 4.
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Old 03-31-2014, 08:20   #58
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Gen 4 G21 send to be the hands down favourite. I don't spend a lot of time micro comparing all of the guns out there and wonder if there is that much differences in the generations.

Or is it more difficult to find a NIB Gen 3 21? Like I said, I love my Gen 3 and it does flawlessly what it is intended to do. Just curious.
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Old 03-31-2014, 12:01   #59
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I love my Gen 3 G21......should I slash my wrists? I'm looking for a Gen 4 G30s. I think this is is best of many great options. What do I know? What do you think...OP?
I'm thinking I need to get my hands on a Gen4 30 and a 30s and see if that size makes or breaks the gun for me, if not, it seems like a lot of people like the shootabilty of the 30 with the fatter slide. I have a line on a G30, now I just need to find somebody in my small town with that 30s...
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I'm thinking I need to get my hands on a Gen4 30 and a 30s and see if that size makes or breaks the gun for me, if not, it seems like a lot of people like the shootabilty of the 30 with the fatter slide. I have a line on a G30, now I just need to find somebody in my small town with that 30s...
An earlier comment about the small difference in the slide is not very significant. It is more of a 'feel' thing than a practical matter of slimness. I handled the three models simultaneously and preferred the 30S. YMMV
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