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Old 01-10-2014, 08:07   #41
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Uhm...That "Ruger" R51 says REMINGTON on the side of it.....

As for the "StrikeOne", I'm not sure what it's going to do that a G-17 or an XD isn't, except cost almost twice as much.....
Don't worry, Ruger will have a copy of the R51 out next year.
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Old 01-10-2014, 08:09   #42
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I totally agree with this. I still love my Glocks. I have owned 9 of them and currently have a 19 and 26. They were my carry pistols for years, bigger and smaller. I NEVER thought this would happen, However, I have changed my 2 main carry guns away from Glock. My larger carry gun is now an H&K 45C, and my smaller carry gun is now a Kahr PM9. Although, I still carry my Glocks sometimes. They will never be retired! I would love a "Shieldish" Glock, but Gaston has never cared about what anyone else thought. He won't be around forever, even though he plans to live to 125 years old. When he does lose control maybe lots of us Glock fans will get some of the variety we have wanted for SO long!
Similar situation. Down to just a G20 and a G26 myself.
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Old 01-10-2014, 08:15   #43
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Can't wait for the Remington to become readily available. Not going to make the mistake I did on the XDs just to have one early. Of course I loved my XDs until Springfield screwed it up.

As for that other thing... saying it has a low bore axis, then comparing it (pictorially) to a .... Sig .....

GLOCK and M&P both have pretty low bore axis, so wonder how much lower it will be in that comparison.
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Old 01-10-2014, 08:26   #44
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Held one yesterday....I'm on the list! Not too big, not too small, and an all metal construction...love it
You either have small hands or that gun is bigger than I thought. Supposed to be the same size as a Ruger LC9. What do you think?
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For those questioning the height over bore as compared to other popular similar size handguns:
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Old 01-10-2014, 08:30   #46
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Can't wait for the Remington to become readily available. Not going to make the mistake I did on the XDs just to have one early. Of course I loved my XDs until Springfield screwed it up.

As for that other thing... saying it has a low bore axis, then comparing it (pictorially) to a .... Sig .....

GLOCK and M&P both have pretty low bore axis, so wonder how much lower it will be in that comparison.


Perhaps they compared it to a Sig because it will be priced competitively to Sig all- metal pistols. Maybe they don't see the major poly-guns as any competition to their new fangled pistols.
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For those questioning the height over bore as compared to other popular similar size handguns:
Strike One comparative high speed video - YouTube


What's with the spooky music? I'm wondering how you can possibly maintain the exact same grip on every gun to measure such small changes in angle. Not saying it's a deliberate mis-interpretation but the angles measured are so close that you'd think the smallest change in grip would affect the results.
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What's with the spooky music? I'm wondering how you can possibly maintain the exact same grip on every gun to measure such small changes in angle. Not saying it's a deliberate mis-interpretation but the angles measured are so close that you'd think the smallest change in grip would affect the results.
I brought up this same point w/my buddy along w/the Mr Rodgers sweater sleeves. If it was my firearm I was marketing I would limp wrist every other gun & then apply the locked out wrists of Odin when demonstrating my firearm. Not saying that's what they did, just pointing out how unscientific the 'test' is as there are too many potential variables when there should be only one: height over bore. Regardless of that fact we can extrapolate that the actual height over bore is likely accurate enough for our consumption & conversation.
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Don't worry, Ruger will have a copy of the R51 out next year.


You're probably right, my friend.
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Don't worry, Ruger will have a copy of the R51 out next year.
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For those questioning the height over bore as compared to other popular similar size handguns:
The difference is academic.

The US Secret Service Presidential Protective team has been using these allegedly hard-to-shoot-high-bore-axis SIG Sauer pistols for years. I doubt that there are better combat shooters than these people.
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The difference is academic.

The US Secret Service Presidential Protective team has been using these allegedly hard-to-shoot-high-bore-axis SIG Sauer pistols for years. I doubt that there are better combat shooters than these people.
and yet... Sigs are rare to absent among top USPSA, IDPA, and multigun competitors.
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and yet... Sigs are rare to absent among top USPSA, IDPA, and multigun competitors.
Game guns versus combat guns.

SIGs for some reasons seem to be used by those that go into harm's way a lot more than other guns. Why is that? If they're so hard to shoot? I mean, wouldn't the British SAS and the Secret Service personnel have needs for quick and accurate shooting handguns?
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Now what made Remington think a single stack 9mm about the size of a Glock 26 would sell? I'm very interested in checking one out, though the grip safety isn't something I'm thrilled about.
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Now what made Remington think a single stack 9mm about the size of a Glock 26 would sell? I'm very interested in checking one out, though the grip safety isn't something I'm thrilled about.
Remind me how thick a G26 is and what the frame is made of?
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Remind me how thick a G26 is and what the frame is made of?
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the Remington almost looks like a 9mm p232 minus the hammer on the p232
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The more the merrier. Both guns intrigue me.
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There are several more handguns that have not been introd yet. Wait just a few more days.
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Now what made Remington think a single stack 9mm about the size of a Glock 26 would sell? I'm very interested in checking one out, though the grip safety isn't something I'm thrilled about.
The might have been reading Glock Talk.

I am actually delighted that they have a grip safety which is hinged in the proper position.

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