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Old 12-04-2013, 17:56   #1
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Old 12-04-2013, 18:05   #2
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Old 12-04-2013, 18:35   #3
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Now where did I leave that Artillery Punch (aka Old Muzzle Blast) recipe??

Happy St. Barbara's Day to all the old cannon cockers and missile launchers!!!
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Seems so distant to think that back when I was in Fort Sill in Arty school we were just getting away from TACFIRE and moving to BCS..then to look at what Arty does now...wow. Fire mission, boys. SHOT OVER
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Old 12-04-2013, 20:53   #6
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Seems so distant to think that back when I was in Fort Sill in Arty school we were just getting away from TACFIRE and moving to BCS..then to look at what Arty does now...wow. Fire mission, boys. SHOT OVER
Please tell me you know what I mean when I say GFT, TFT, charts and darts?? I know I'm going all "back in the day" on you but my only exposure to TACFIRE and BCS was in the pages of The Field Artillery Journal.
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Well, my grandfather served in the 8th Coast Artillery during the Spanish American War. Defended Mobile, Alabama. Good job. The Spaniards never landed.

My wife's grandpa served in the 9th FA Regiment (Mech.). Motorcycle dispatch rider on a Harley. Protected Hawaii from the Huns. Again, very successful.
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Yep, I took Arty Officer basic at Ft. Sill, 1976. Then got moved to Pershing Missiles.
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Seems so distant to think that back when I was in Fort Sill in Arty school we were just getting away from TACFIRE and moving to BCS..then to look at what Arty does now...wow. Fire mission, boys. SHOT OVER
Happy Saint Barbara's Day to all you long range snipers.

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Well, my grandfather served in the 8th Coast Artillery during the Spanish American War. Defended Mobile, Alabama. Good job. The Spaniards never landed.

My wife's grandpa served in the 9th FA Regiment (Mech.). Motorcycle dispatch rider on a Harley. Protected Hawaii from the Huns. Again, very successful.
OK, that's funny.
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Please tell me you know what I mean when I say GFT, TFT, charts and darts?? I know I'm going all "back in the day" on you but my only exposure to TACFIRE and BCS was in the pages of The Field Artillery Journal.
Of course I do. We had to learn it all the old fashioned way first. Polar plotting, charts and darts, survey, three point resection all the stuff I probably can't remember. I did survey for a bit too.

That's me on the left there with the BUCS in my hands.
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Of course I do. We had to learn it all the old fashioned way first. Polar plotting, charts and darts, survey, three point resection all the stuff I probably can't remember. I did survey for a bit too.

That's me on the left there with the BUCS in my hands.
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I figured you did have the manual back-up training but just had to ask because technology moves so fast. Cool photo, BTW -- BUCS is an unfamiliar term to me.
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BUCS just meant Back Up Computer System, we did the mils checks on little HP devices, as redundancy to EMP or outages that could have affected the BCS system.
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BUCS just meant Back Up Computer System, we did the mils checks on little HP devices, as redundancy to EMP or outages that could have affected the BCS system.

But could you use the "slip-sticks"?

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We called her the "Dirty Gertie." I don't remember why. Was 13E/13F for a while. Learned charts and darts... Also Freddie (FADAC). Got out in '92. Redlegs!!!
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Old 12-05-2013, 23:58   #18
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this brings back memories. I did my 13B AIT at Sill in 1975 and then changed to 13E in my unit in '76, charts and darts
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Yep, I took Arty Officer basic at Ft. Sill, 1976. Then got moved to Pershing Missiles.
I was enlisted as 13B in the NHARNG while I was in high school and college and then was commissioned after college. So I was able to "enjoy" OSUT at FT Sill and then OBC and OAC. Anyway, did Aiming Circle Hill exist in 1976? We "laid and safed" more howitzers than I care to remember on that hill. I'm still on active duty so I am still pretty current on some of those skills, but I will never, ever forget TFULU or SADULU. Now if you asked me to fill out a manual MET sheet......
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Freaking Cannon Cockers.



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I was enlisted as 13B in the NHARNG while I was in high school and college and then was commissioned after college. So I was able to "enjoy" OSUT at FT Sill and then OBC and OAC. Anyway, did Aiming Circle Hill exist in 1976? We "laid and safed" more howitzers than I care to remember on that hill. I'm still on active duty so I am still pretty current on some of those skills, but I will never, ever forget TFULU or SADULU. Now if you asked me to fill out a manual MET sheet......
Aiming Circle Hill was there in 1978 so I'm pretty sure it was there in '76, too. Don't recall TFULU -- could you possibly mean TFOOL (Take the Fire Out of the Old Lady = subtract the azimuth of fire out of the orienting line)?

BTW, I had two members of the NHARNG in my FAOBC class doing their active duty for training - great guys, we all lived in the same apartment complex near Cameron University while we were there.
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I was enlisted as 13B in the NHARNG while I was in high school and college and then was commissioned after college. So I was able to "enjoy" OSUT at FT Sill and then OBC and OAC. Anyway, did Aiming Circle Hill exist in 1976? We "laid and safed" more howitzers than I care to remember on that hill. I'm still on active duty so I am still pretty current on some of those skills, but I will never, ever forget TFULU or SADULU. Now if you asked me to fill out a manual MET sheet......
Yep, and was a cold motherf since I started class in Jan. Brrr.
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Aiming Circle Hill was there in 1978 so I'm pretty sure it was there in '76, too. Don't recall TFULU -- could you possibly mean TFOOL (Take the Fire Out of the Old Lady = subtract the azimuth of fire out of the orienting line)?

BTW, I had two members of the NHARNG in my FAOBC class doing their active duty for training - great guys, we all lived in the same apartment complex near Cameron University while we were there.
TFULU- basically the same thing you said but the U-L-U referenced what you did with the upper (recording) motion and the lower (nonrecording motion) motion.

The other was SADULU (it's a sad day without survey). Subtract the Azimuth of fire from the Declination constant. Set that on the Upper motion. Float and center the needle with the Lower motion, lay the howitzer with the Upper motion.

The other beauty was the Polaris Kochab method. I couldn't do that today if my life depended on it.
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