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Old 10-30-2013, 13:25   #1
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New hunting rifle: Ruger GSR or AR10?

I own a few hunting rifles in various calibers, but my go to all-around rifle for deer, elk, and bear is a Ruger M77 All-Weather-Rifle in .30-06 that I camouflaged.

It is light, durable, accurate, and reliable.

However, the concept of the Scout rifle really appeals to me; a more compact, handy rifle, with more ammo capacity that can be used for hunting big game or for SHTF.

I started looking into the Ruger GSR and decided to replace my M77 with the GSR in the stainless version with the 18" barrel.

However, someone wrote a letter to a gun magazine about the GSR and stated that an AR10 does everything the GSR does, but better.

It shoots .308, has 20rd capacity vs 10rd. Is the same weight or lighter, is just as or more accurate, has same overall length, and can be just as reliable.

With GSRs going for around $1000, I started thinking that I possibly could get an AR10 for close to that price.

The thought of using an AR10 for hunting elk and other large game never occurred to me...

I need to do more research into it, but what do you guys think?
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Old 10-30-2013, 13:33   #2
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Old 10-30-2013, 15:02   #3
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I love my GSR but if I had the funds for another 7.62 I would get the SR762.

It really depends on your intended use for the rifle. For a SHTF hard hitting semi, the AR10 fits the bill plus you can hunt with it.

For general use such as plinking and hunting and all around fun, the GSR is a sure bet although it could serve well in SHTF as well.

There is also the conception that the GSR goes not appear as "evil".

All things equal, either would make a great choice.
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Old 10-30-2013, 15:05   #4
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AR10... Tons more fun... Hyper accurate IME!
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Old 10-30-2013, 15:08   #5
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The SR762 looks to be a good choice in it's class, but it does weigh a pound and a half more than the GSR and is selling on the street for about $800 more than the GSR...
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Old 10-30-2013, 17:08   #6
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I own a GSR and have a RRA LAR-8 .308 on order. So until I can take them out together, I don't know. Other than I expect to prefer the RRA. But...BTW OP, you can get a DPMS Oracle .308 at Wal-Mart for $907. At least we can hear. I think I paid a tad over $800 OTD for my new GSR.
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Old 10-30-2013, 17:58   #7
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AR 10 upper in .338 Federal would make a potent big game rifle...
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Do you travel and hunt at all? Is so some places might restrict your ability to hunt your game with a semi.


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BTW I have owned 3 AR 10's. I have for now converted to the DD Ambush 6.8, and it is a low recoiling tack driver that I am super happy with. I can also pop 2 pins and I have any AR 15 I want!
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AR 10 upper in .338 Federal would make a potent big game rifle...
I agree. I wonder what one would be like in .375 Ruger?...
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Old 10-30-2013, 19:00   #11
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Have you looked at the weight difference?

AR10s are not light rifles.

posted from my stupid smart phone, please excuse any spelling mistakes.
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Old 10-30-2013, 19:23   #12
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Have you looked at the weight difference?

AR10s are not light rifles.

posted from my stupid smart phone, please excuse any spelling mistakes.
Very true. My GSR weighs 7#'s and the RRA I have on order is 9.1#'s! But, 21 rounds as fast as I can get back on target and pull the trigger trumps 11 rounds as fast as I can rack a kinda crappy bolt. The GSR's bolt is the least smooth of all of my bolt action guns, but I still really like the gun a lot.
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Old 10-30-2013, 20:46   #13
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Do you travel and hunt at all? Is so some places might restrict your ability to hunt your game with a semi.


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Nope. I only hunt Idaho, AZ, and hoping for Wyoming antelope next September.
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Old 10-30-2013, 21:55   #14
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An AR10, really isn't a hunting gun.


Sure, you can use it to hunt, but it's like driving a semi to the grocery store.
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An AR10, really isn't a hunting gun.


Sure, you can use it to hunt, but it's like driving a semi to the grocery store.
I would like a rifle that can be used for hunting and SHTF. An AR in .308 seems to fit the bill nicely.

Why isn't it a hunting rifle?

The only difference between the AR10 and the GSR is the action; semi-auto vs. bolt-action.

There have been many traditional hunting rifles that have been semi-auto; the Browning BAR and Remington 7400. Both of those have wood stocks...

So, do you mean to say wood is the only acceptable material for a stock on a hunting rifle?

So, this isn't a hunting rifle?

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The only reason the AR10 isn't a "hunting rifle" is looks...

One would weigh less than my Model 70 in .35 Whelen, and more accurate and powerful than my .257 Roberts.

Of course I wouldn't hunt with a 20rd magazine in it; not even sure if that is legal...

But I don't see anything wrong with hunting with this:

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Old 10-30-2013, 23:24   #16
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An AR10, really isn't a hunting gun.


Sure, you can use it to hunt, but it's like driving a semi to the grocery store.
Maybe not for Alaska, but in south Arkansas, where hogs are thicker than flies on a rib roast, an AR-10 is a huntin' machine.
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Old 10-31-2013, 01:21   #17
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Unless the pigs started wearing flak jackets after my last visit, it's way more gun than a pig needs.


No, I could care less how it looks, Vart, it's just the truth. If your going to carry and hunt with it, the AR series makes a poorer hunting gun than a good bolt or even pump.

Can you? Sure, I do it myself sometimes just because I want to. But it doesn't make it a good choice.

A GSR would be a much more useful all around rifle, weighs less, is probably just as accurate, and costs substantially less. And if you know how to run it, can be damn fast as well.


But at the end of the day, you'll have sunk 2K into a gun that won't kill any deader than the GSR
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Old 10-31-2013, 09:05   #18
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Two weeks ago, you were talking about selling a rifle gifted to you by your dad in order to pay bills. Now you want a new hunting rifle when you already have a few?
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Old 10-31-2013, 09:55   #19
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This is long-term planning... My house is for sale and I have quite a bit of equity in it. I'm going to replace the guns I had to sell during this rough time when the house does sell...
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Unless the pigs started wearing flak jackets after my last visit, it's way more gun than a pig needs.
They kinda do have a flak jacket. And a .308 isn't considered by anyone who hunts them on a regular basis, to be "way more gun than a pig needs." Maybe for shoats, but when you have a 400-600# boar in your sights, you better have something that works pretty damn good. Especially if you're on the ground with them. Average size hogs on our lease are 150-250#'s, but we've taken a couple over 600. And several well over 400.
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Very true. My GSR weighs 7#'s and the RRA I have on order is 9.1#'s! But, 21 rounds as fast as I can get back on target and pull the trigger trumps 11 rounds as fast as I can rack a kinda crappy bolt. The GSR's bolt is the least smooth of all of my bolt action guns, but I still really like the gun a lot.
I don't know anything about hogs...never lived anywhere where they were a problem, but everything I hunt here has a 5 round mag limit.

...and while I agree the Rugers I've seen aren't really smooth cycling bolts, semi autos cycle faster than you can get back on target anyway. A little practice with a short action bolt gun and you can get shots off just as fast.
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Old 10-31-2013, 19:14   #22
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Leaning back towards the GSR now... 2 extra pounds for a hunting rifle is very noticeable when my hunts are typically 5-10 miles of hiking...

Perhaps the GSR and a new upper for the AR in a more potent caliber...
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Sounds to me like your M77 is just right
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:25   #24
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Anywhere you live that's mountainous go with the lightest setup you can get. If you gotta hump the gear up and down hills every ounce counts.

If you can drive out there or it's flat it's not as much of an issue.

Just own multiple guns. Hunt with a dedicated hunting rifle. Own an AR based platform for the event you need to shoot zombies.

I love my GSR btw, but it wouldn't be my first choice in a firefight...

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Old 11-06-2013, 03:49   #25
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I just picked up a new GSR this past weekend. 18" stainless. I picked it up off the shelf and it just felt right. I wanted a .308 but didn't want to break the bank. I'll be taking it out to Knob Creek this weekend to sight it in.
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