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Old 10-24-2013, 12:45   #61
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English not your first language?
Muddying the waters ?
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Old 10-24-2013, 12:46   #62
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Muddying the waters ?
C'mon, I said "tend to". Doesn't always happen, but I've seen it a bunch.


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Old 10-24-2013, 12:55   #63
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C'mon, I said "tend to". Doesn't always happen, but I've seen it a bunch.

Fair enough . Around here most decent hunting land is leased by clubs . If you're fortunate enough to know somebody that will let you hunt for free , you tend to go all out to keep them happy . Share your meat , keep the place clean , do a little tractor work , whatever it takes .
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Old 10-24-2013, 13:07   #64
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What I would do:

Try to deal with this as adults without government intervention first.

Give him one chance: Leave a note on his truck. Take photos of truck, stand on your property, license plate etc. Tell him he has 24 hours to contact you regarding being on your property.

Then if he does not contact you as a last resort file a report with the Game Warden.

The guy might be cool as hell and just misinformed. You might actually make a friend who will share meat with you in return for a hunting stand.

or he might be a d!&$ in which case the last resort will deal with it.

Bottom line is any and all verbal agreements your grandfather made are null and void when the property was sold. / quit claimed.

Make sure you take photos and document it. Be polite at first then resort to legal methods if your polite overtures are not reciprocated.

THEN I would deal with this farming issue ASAP and get somethign resolved in writing before you end up having a huge civil issue on your hands, especially if someone gets hurt seriously on YOUR property while farming.

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Old 10-24-2013, 13:27   #65
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Please don't try to make a "citizens arrest" as one Rambo poster suggested.
Hey, don't bring me into this!

Game warden. Hunters are generally not too bright and not too upstanding. Let someone else handle them. Part of the reason I hunt on family-owned land. And for ****'s sake, start posting your land!
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Old 10-24-2013, 13:36   #66
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Looks like LEOs do have a use after all.

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Just watch. It's two cops that are using his land.
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Old 10-24-2013, 13:37   #67
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Just watch. It's two cops that are using his land.
****, I give it a 50/50 chance at being one of the Game Wardens themselves.
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Old 10-24-2013, 13:58   #68
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I agree with the previous posts, that the important thing here is to get control of that land before you are open to squatter's claims on it.

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Old 10-24-2013, 14:06   #69
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This is a big problem where my property is upstate NY. The locals I've caught use the excuse they've hunted all there life and were going to buy it. Encon is never available.
The troopers are the real deal.
I go up north of Bingamton and we have the same problem. Damn poachers just line the road and walk into the forest through the private land until the day they see you drive up - then they wait until you leave for the season and do it some more.

I guess when your house is a second-hand trailer with blue-tarp covering half of it, you just don't give a damn about property rights. Destitute scumbags.
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Old 10-24-2013, 14:42   #70
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Last I do not even know who the farmer is. He had a agreement with my grandfather to farm it and not even my mom knows who it is.
Interesting. I would be concerned about losing the property under the doctrine of adverse possession. I do not fully understand the concept, but I would look at it.

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"Adverse possession is a process by which premises can change ownership by using a property for a period of time without paying for it. It is governed by statute[1] concerning the title to real property (land and the fixed structures built upon it). By adverse possession, title to another's real property can be acquired without compensation, by holding the property in a manner that conflicts with the true owner's rights for a specified period. For example, squatter's rights are a specific form of adverse possession."

More specific to Ohio:
http://www.ohiorelaw.com/2010/07/adv...n-in-ohio.html
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Old 10-24-2013, 14:46   #71
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How can you NOT know who is farming your land? Don't you ever see or talk to him?
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Old 10-24-2013, 14:54   #72
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Does anyone know if Ohio recognizes squatter's rights, since this farmer has been working the land with nothing said by the owners for years? That could be ugly.

Adverse Possession, something like that?
Deal was with grandpa
Grandson has no obligation .....moral , legal, no reason to continual verbal agreement.
Agreement ran out, thats all.
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Old 10-24-2013, 15:10   #73
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Hunters are generally not too bright and not too upstanding.

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Old 10-24-2013, 15:36   #74
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Meet the hunter and explain that he can only hunt the property as your guest. Then forget to invite him.

Or, as my brother did once, meet the hunter and ask if he has seen anyone else hunting. Then warn them to be careful, since your brother is hunting the same area and you wouldn't want anyone to get shot.
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Old 10-24-2013, 15:37   #75
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Over the years this has happened on the family farm.

My dad pulls the stand down and lays it at the foot of the tree. The message has always gotten through.

No one even tries anymore.

If he doesn't get the message I would leave a polite note on his truck.

Step 3, if he just doesn't get it, call he warden while he is in the stand.
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Old 10-24-2013, 17:56   #76
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Sounds like you got a new ladder and a couple stands. Oh yeah and a game warden to call.
That is theft. He needs to call the game warden and they will come and remove them.
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Old 10-24-2013, 18:08   #77
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Hunters are generally not too bright and not too upstanding. Let someone else handle them. Part of the reason I hunt on family-owned land. And for ****'s sake, start posting your land!
If you say so, sport.
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Old 10-24-2013, 18:11   #78
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I really find the level of distrust and suspicion in this thread to be unbelievable.

A huge majority of posters want to instantly call the game wardens, or sheriff, have him charged with trespassing, etc.

Perhaps I come at it from a different angle, but numerous times over the years I have found people hunting on our family land. Every time, I have simply talked to them, explained that we don't allow hunting without prior permission, and asked them to leave. There has never been a problem, and in all instances, they have immediately apologized, and left. A couple have returned the next year, told me that they were the ones that I asked to leave last year, and that I said only with prior permission was hunting allowed. They then said that they were asking permission, and would understand if it was not granted. Every time this took place, these gentlemen got permission to hunt, and we got a share of their bounty, if they bagged anything.

I have also been on the other side of the equation. A few years ago, a good friend of mine gave me permission to hunt birds on his property. His property is part of a large tract of land that is all farmed. But there are different owners of different parts of the tract (over 2,000 acres total). When I arrived, and set up to hunt, I thought I was on his land, but I found out later that I was 1/4 mile off. Oops! The owner of the property where I was drove up, and asked why I was hunting there. I told him that I had permission from my friend to hunt on his land. He informed me that I had missed the right location by 1/4 mile. I apologized, and immediately packed my stuff, and moved to the proper area. It was an honest mistake, and while I was technically trespassing on his property, it was unintentional. I would hate to think that I would have had to live with a trespassing charge on my record for such a mistake.

If after making contact with the hunter, he is rude, or in any way disrespectful, then by all means he should be dealt with by the authorities, but I am willing to bet that a polite conversation and request that he cease hunting on your land is all that it will take.

Perhaps I am naive, but I still believe that the greatest majority of people are good at heart, and deserve to be treated cordially and with respect until they prove that they do not deserve it.
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That is theft. He needs to call the game warden and they will come and remove them.
Absolutely no theft involved when property is abandoned on MY property by someone who did not have my permission to be there in the first place.
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In Vermont where I own some land, if it's not posted it is ok to hunt it.

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