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Old 10-24-2013, 10:07   #51
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"Rights" like that cost money.

I have no sympathy for hunters who do not pay for their own land. If they are nice, maybe even do favors, then perhaps they can get the "privilege" to hunt on somebody's land.

You wanna keep hunting there? You should have bought the land when it came up for sale. And pay the taxes.
This is a big problem where my property is upstate NY. The locals I've caught use the excuse they've hunted all there life and were going to buy it. Encon is never available.
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:09   #52
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It's a damn shame that we need signs these days to cure what common sense doesn't. Who in their right mind thinks it's perfectly ok to go on land that doesn't belong to you and do as you please on it.

This is why I tend to be against "city hunters".
It is a shame.......however, one must do what he has to.
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:41   #53
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Old 10-24-2013, 11:12   #54
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"Rights" like that cost money.

I have no sympathy for hunters who do not pay for their own land. If they are nice, maybe even do favors, then perhaps they can get the "privilege" to hunt on somebody's land.

You wanna keep hunting there? You should have bought the land when it came up for sale. And pay the taxes.
Agree 100%.

Those that get to hunt free on private land tend to begin to treat it as a right. Then they feel entitled to it.
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Old 10-24-2013, 11:21   #55
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I can understand not wanting to confront the guy when he is on your land and armed, but there is no reason to call L.E. yet.

Put a note on his ladder.
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Put a note on his truck.
or
Move his stuff to the edge of your property and put a note on it.
or
Post a bunch of signs.


The first thing is to make sure he knows he is not where he is supposed to be. I'd guess the issue will be resolved at that point.

We don't even know if the farmer is the hunter.
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Old 10-24-2013, 11:48   #56
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Agree 100%.

Those that get to hunt free on private land tend to begin to treat it as a right. Then they feel entitled to it.
Really ? All of us ? I never knew that .
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Old 10-24-2013, 12:04   #57
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Here, "deer leases" are very common, is that not the case in other states? It is an agreement that allows you to hunt on the land, and possibly will have a limit on the number of deer taken. I know guys that have had deer leases on the same land for many years. Some land owners will allow feeders and small cabins or stands to be built. Farmers and ranchers get to control deer populations to avoid destruction of crops or reduction of food or water for their livestock.
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Old 10-24-2013, 12:17   #58
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I know a guy who was hunting his posted land and got shot in the arm by a trespassing hunter. The trespasser then tried to blame the owner for hunting on posted land. Talk about stupid things that can happen.

Another friend fishing his private property, approached by another fisherman who tells him the land is private and he shouldn't be there.
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Old 10-24-2013, 12:25   #59
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Really ? All of us ? I never knew that .
English not your first language?
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Old 10-24-2013, 12:31   #60
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I wonder if said trespassing hunter got hurt while on your property if you're liable to cover his medical expenses should the property not be posted, fenced/gated?
Virginia says unless you are charging to hunt the owner is protected under normal circumstances.
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Old 10-24-2013, 12:45   #61
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English not your first language?
Muddying the waters ?
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Old 10-24-2013, 12:46   #62
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Muddying the waters ?
C'mon, I said "tend to". Doesn't always happen, but I've seen it a bunch.


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Old 10-24-2013, 12:55   #63
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C'mon, I said "tend to". Doesn't always happen, but I've seen it a bunch.

Fair enough . Around here most decent hunting land is leased by clubs . If you're fortunate enough to know somebody that will let you hunt for free , you tend to go all out to keep them happy . Share your meat , keep the place clean , do a little tractor work , whatever it takes .
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Old 10-24-2013, 13:07   #64
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What I would do:

Try to deal with this as adults without government intervention first.

Give him one chance: Leave a note on his truck. Take photos of truck, stand on your property, license plate etc. Tell him he has 24 hours to contact you regarding being on your property.

Then if he does not contact you as a last resort file a report with the Game Warden.

The guy might be cool as hell and just misinformed. You might actually make a friend who will share meat with you in return for a hunting stand.

or he might be a d!&$ in which case the last resort will deal with it.

Bottom line is any and all verbal agreements your grandfather made are null and void when the property was sold. / quit claimed.

Make sure you take photos and document it. Be polite at first then resort to legal methods if your polite overtures are not reciprocated.

THEN I would deal with this farming issue ASAP and get somethign resolved in writing before you end up having a huge civil issue on your hands, especially if someone gets hurt seriously on YOUR property while farming.

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Old 10-24-2013, 13:27   #65
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Please don't try to make a "citizens arrest" as one Rambo poster suggested.
Hey, don't bring me into this!

Game warden. Hunters are generally not too bright and not too upstanding. Let someone else handle them. Part of the reason I hunt on family-owned land. And for ****'s sake, start posting your land!
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Old 10-24-2013, 13:36   #66
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Just watch. It's two cops that are using his land.
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Old 10-24-2013, 13:37   #67
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Just watch. It's two cops that are using his land.
****, I give it a 50/50 chance at being one of the Game Wardens themselves.
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Old 10-24-2013, 13:58   #68
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I agree with the previous posts, that the important thing here is to get control of that land before you are open to squatter's claims on it.

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Old 10-24-2013, 14:06   #69
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This is a big problem where my property is upstate NY. The locals I've caught use the excuse they've hunted all there life and were going to buy it. Encon is never available.
The troopers are the real deal.
I go up north of Bingamton and we have the same problem. Damn poachers just line the road and walk into the forest through the private land until the day they see you drive up - then they wait until you leave for the season and do it some more.

I guess when your house is a second-hand trailer with blue-tarp covering half of it, you just don't give a damn about property rights. Destitute scumbags.
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Old 10-24-2013, 14:42   #70
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Last I do not even know who the farmer is. He had a agreement with my grandfather to farm it and not even my mom knows who it is.
Interesting. I would be concerned about losing the property under the doctrine of adverse possession. I do not fully understand the concept, but I would look at it.

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"Adverse possession is a process by which premises can change ownership by using a property for a period of time without paying for it. It is governed by statute[1] concerning the title to real property (land and the fixed structures built upon it). By adverse possession, title to another's real property can be acquired without compensation, by holding the property in a manner that conflicts with the true owner's rights for a specified period. For example, squatter's rights are a specific form of adverse possession."

More specific to Ohio:
http://www.ohiorelaw.com/2010/07/adv...n-in-ohio.html
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Old 10-24-2013, 14:46   #71
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How can you NOT know who is farming your land? Don't you ever see or talk to him?
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Old 10-24-2013, 14:54   #72
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Does anyone know if Ohio recognizes squatter's rights, since this farmer has been working the land with nothing said by the owners for years? That could be ugly.

Adverse Possession, something like that?
Deal was with grandpa
Grandson has no obligation .....moral , legal, no reason to continual verbal agreement.
Agreement ran out, thats all.
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Old 10-24-2013, 15:10   #73
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Hunters are generally not too bright and not too upstanding.

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Old 10-24-2013, 15:36   #74
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Meet the hunter and explain that he can only hunt the property as your guest. Then forget to invite him.

Or, as my brother did once, meet the hunter and ask if he has seen anyone else hunting. Then warn them to be careful, since your brother is hunting the same area and you wouldn't want anyone to get shot.
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Old 10-24-2013, 15:37   #75
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Over the years this has happened on the family farm.

My dad pulls the stand down and lays it at the foot of the tree. The message has always gotten through.

No one even tries anymore.

If he doesn't get the message I would leave a polite note on his truck.

Step 3, if he just doesn't get it, call he warden while he is in the stand.
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