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Old 10-21-2013, 19:29   #1
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What's the best gun safe/vault for $5k?

Sorry for the general title but I'm hitting a stalemate when looking for my next safe. Here's my criteria;
  • Max Cost: $5,000
  • Max dimensions: W 50" x D 30" x H ~75"
  • Fireproof/theft: I live in a nice New England suburban town with low crime and approximately 1 mile from police and fire.
  • Other: I'd like a left hand hinge, some interior lighting, and a split between long gun storage and shelving.

I've been looking at the Fort Knox Defender 7241 (45 cu. ft) but am curious if they're worth the cost premium. Their safes are only UL rated, vs. TL rated which I've been told is much more strict.

Is Fort Knox worth the cost premium?
What is the real difference between premium safes?
What else should I be considering for makes/models/etc?

Thanks!
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Old 10-23-2013, 14:54   #2
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http://www.opticsplanet.com/howto/ho...=howtoguides13
Did not read it but see if this helps.
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Old 10-24-2013, 03:31   #3
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I've been looking around as well. I've been leaning towards Fort Knoxx. I've heard they make some of the best out there.
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Old 10-24-2013, 04:50   #4
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The best safes are used ones. Not much has changed in locking, fireproof boxes over the past hundred years, except USA steel is better than import.

Used safes can sometimes be purchased circa song.

Run an ad in CL and see what turns up.

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Old 10-24-2013, 06:48   #5
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Sorry for the general title but I'm hitting a stalemate when looking for my next safe. Here's my criteria;
  • Max Cost: $5,000
  • Max dimensions: W 50" x D 30" x H ~75"
  • Fireproof/theft: I live in a nice New England suburban town with low crime and approximately 1 mile from police and fire.
  • Other: I'd like a left hand hinge, some interior lighting, and a split between long gun storage and shelving.

I've been looking at the Fort Knox Defender 7241 (45 cu. ft) but am curious if they're worth the cost premium. Their safes are only UL rated, vs. TL rated which I've been told is much more strict.

Is Fort Knox worth the cost premium?
What is the real difference between premium safes?
What else should I be considering for makes/models/etc?

Thanks!


Let us know what you get. thanks.
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Old 10-24-2013, 07:24   #6
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Have you looked at AMSEC?

http://www.amsecusa.com/Gun_Safes/BF_Series_Gun_Safes/
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:17   #7
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$5K will buy a lot of safe. I'd suggest starting off reading this:
http://www.6mmbr.com/gunsafes.html

Note: the vast majority of gun safes are not safes, they are RSC's (residential security containers).

Many gun safes have a pretty paint job and plated handles, but that is only cosmetic. Look at the metal thickness of the sides - not just the doors. For me, I was looking for a garage safe (no need for glossy paint) and wanted fire protection. I ended up getting a Sturdy 7 gauge with fireliner for ~half your budget (36x27x72). Now that they have 4 gauge I would get that and perhaps a stainless liner if I wanted more security.

http://www.sturdysafe.com/ They are popular in the CA market since that is where they are located and where the safes are built.
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Old 11-01-2013, 20:24   #8
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http://www.sturdysafe.com/[/url] They are popular in the CA market since that is where they are located and where the safes are built.
I know a few people with these and they are amazing!
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Old 11-02-2013, 18:33   #9
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The best safes are used ones. Not much has changed in locking, fireproof boxes over the past hundred years, except USA steel is better than import.

Used safes can sometimes be purchased circa song.

Run an ad in CL and see what turns up.

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I know a fellow that his basement walls are lined with safes. I asked him where or how he could have gotten them all,it must have cost a fortune.
He told me evert time over the years that a bank or town/city office was upgrading/refurbishing he would try to buy the old safe.he had some beautiful examples of the safe builders art. SJ 40
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