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Old 11-05-2013, 19:25   #1
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CAA Tactical RONI vs Keltec Sub 2000

Hey guys. Just curious what your thoughts were on these two platforms. I've got a Glock 17 that I plan to utilize.

I can use the Glock 17 mags in the Keltec.

After the SBR stamp on the RONI they'll both be about same cost.

Trying to understand which direction is the better direction to go.
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Old 11-05-2013, 19:29   #2
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I went with the Kel Tec but thats just me. SJ 40
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Old 11-05-2013, 19:39   #3
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What do you want it for, exactly?
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Old 11-05-2013, 19:43   #4
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WOW!!! How much are the Sub2Ks going for now?

I only paid $289 each for my Subs (G17 & G22 versions). Have they doubled in price?

That RONI looks too "busy", too much going on. I like to K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple Sir).


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Old 11-05-2013, 19:54   #5
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WOW!!! How much are the Sub2Ks going for now?

I only paid $289 each for my Subs (G17 & G22 versions). Have they doubled in price?

That RONI looks too "busy", too much going on. I like to K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple Sir).


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Old 11-05-2013, 19:59   #6
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What do you want it for, exactly?
I'd like a pistol caliber carbine for plinking, self defense, possibly a tool for a shtf scenario.

I'd like to have my sidearm and my carbine use the same ammo, same mags.
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Old 11-05-2013, 21:25   #7
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I'd like a pistol caliber carbine for plinking, self defense, possibly a tool for a shtf scenario.

I'd like to have my sidearm and my carbine use the same ammo, same mags.
For SD/HD or 'SHTF' you're limiting yourself by using a pistol caliber, even from a 16" barrel. If you're willing to go SBR, I'd suggest an AR or AK pattern SBR in 5.56 or 7.62x39. I have a 10.5" SBR's AR-15 in 5.56, and it is extremely versatile.

If you're dead set on a pistol caliber carbine, I'd go with the Sub-2k. SBRing the Glock will make it more difficult to carry concealed in some states (Even without the stock, it might still be considered a rifle). The SUB 2k skips the NFA issues, gives somewhat of a velocity increase over the pistol, but still folds up fairly compactly.
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Old 11-05-2013, 23:34   #8
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... and you also mean vs. an MP5, 9mm AR, Beretta Storm, and the on-the-horizon MPX... right?

Keltec is a literal piece of garbage, so if given the choice in the OP, an SBR'd RONI Glock is the obvious choice.

(and it would still be shorter suppressed)
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Old 11-05-2013, 23:43   #9
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At a recent tactical match including pistol cal carbines I observed:

2x Beretta Storm: multiple failures

9mm AR: multiple failures

2x KelTec: multiple failures

Other ARs, MP5 and Uzi: no problems.
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Old 11-06-2013, 05:25   #10
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I might keep looking. I've got $700 to spend so I'm rather limited.
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:24   #11
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Yeah they've pretty much skyrocketed in price unfortunately.

S2K are very hard to find but they should be in the $350-$400 range. If you pay more than that someone is taking advantage of you.

I have had a S2K for maybe 3 years. it's fun to shoot, very accurate out to 100 yards, and 100% reliable with warm ammo.

It will not replace a AR or any rifle. It's a great companion to a Glock with ammo and mags the same. A Glock 17, a S2K, and a AR and you have all your bases covered.
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:34   #12
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Also keep in mind that sub 2k's come with different types of mag compatability..Also available in 9mm or 40 cal..
Make sure you get the one you want....
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:59   #13
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I say go with the Sub2K. I recently picked one up and have taken it out twice and it's flawless thus far. Lightweight, compact when folded, and chews up my reloads with no problems...I'm happy.
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I had a Sub2000 to accompany my Glock 24 for a year or so. It was fun, but by no means is it something you want to throw around. A 3 year old could probably snap it in half. I sold it this past spring for 3x what I paid for it in 2011.
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Old 11-07-2013, 07:42   #15
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Think I'm going a different direction. There are quite a few choices for $700 out there. Thanks all for your replies.
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Old 11-07-2013, 23:10   #16
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My Roni/G23 has been flawless to date.
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