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Old 10-14-2013, 15:54   #1
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Copper Plated Bullets - Okay in Glocks?

I sure hope so bc I'm reloading a bunch. I came late to Glocks getting a Gen 4 G19 just a year ago. Love this pistol! Next will be a G30. Anywho, been reloading for a couple years primarily bc I'm a fiend for 8mm Mauser. 9mm is so darn hard to find I've started reloading it, as well. Been putting Rainier 115 grn copper plated ball on top of 4.4 grains of Titegroup. Shoots wonderfully in the G19, XD-SC, and my Khar. I know lead is a no no in Glock factory bbls, but I'm looking for reassurance that copper is good to go. Love the forums and am glad to be back.

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Old 10-14-2013, 16:06   #2
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Literally, everybody will agree that plated bullets work well in Glock barrels.

A very large number of reloaders will also tell you that lead bullets also work well in Glock barrels. Powder selection might improve performance. Perhaps the very fastest powders aren't the way to go. But it's a "try it and see" kind of deal. Some folks don't have problems, others do.

Plated bullets cost nearly as much as jacketed, if jacketed were available. So, plated it is...

I shoot hard cast bullets from S&S Casting in my G36 and G21SF. They work fine.

Worst case, buy a KKM aftermarket barrel and enjoy saving money on bullets without worrying about leading.

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Old 10-14-2013, 16:06   #3
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Welcome to GT! I've loaded Berry's and Rainier with no problems.
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Old 10-14-2013, 16:30   #4
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Copper plate is not a jacket it is a wash of thin copper. They are not recommended by informed shooters of Glocks. Why risk a KBoom due to lead build up, all Glock asks is to use Copper Jackets , oh yeah and to avoid reloads ...
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Old 10-14-2013, 16:50   #5
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Copper plate is not a jacket it is a wash of thin copper. They are recommended by experienced informed shooters of Glocks. Why risk a KBoom due to lead build up, all Glock asks is to use Copper Jackets , oh yeah and to avoid reloads ...
I respectfully disagree with you. There are copper washed lead bullets that are very similar to plain lead bullets, but plated bullets are not them. Plated depending on manufacturer has a thin copper plating that completely covers any lead and while they are not fmj bullets, they are perfectly safe in Glocks.

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Old 10-14-2013, 16:53   #6
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Copper plate is not a jacket it is a wash of thin copper. They are not recommended by informed shooters of Glocks. Why risk a KBoom due to lead build up, all Glock asks is to use Copper Jackets , oh yeah and to avoid reloads ...
Somehow I get the feeling that "informed shooters".
A) Are not that informed
B) Don't shoot as much as they say they do
C) Don't know that you don't get lead buildup from plated bullets when loaded properly


Not a problem shooting plated bullets in a polygonal Glock barrel. Glock may not approve of it but they don't approve the use reloads either.

Also not all plated bullets are created equal. It all depends on the copper thickness. Speer Gold Dots and Speer TMJ bullets are plated and I am sure none of those ever got shot through OE Glock barrels.

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Old 10-14-2013, 17:58   #7
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Copper plate is not a jacket it is a wash of thin copper. They are not recommended by informed shooters of Glocks. Why risk a KBoom due to lead build up, all Glock asks is to use Copper Jackets , oh yeah and to avoid reloads ...
I guess Iím not one of those informed Glock shooter. In the last 16, 17 years of shooting Glocks. 15 of those shooting 7 or more GSSF matches a year. Have shot around 200,000 rds. of West Coast, now X-Treme and a couple thousand Berry copper plated bullets in 9, 40, 45acp, and gap. Have not had any leading of the any of my Glock barrels. Have not had a KB and have never known anyone KB there Glocks because of copper plated bullets. Double charge, shooting plain lead, but never copper plated bullets. Have had only one time that a Glock armorer told me that I should not use reloads. He then replaced the part and handed the gun back to me. I would say that most people that KB a gun blames everything else except admitting that they screwed up. Just had to be those copper plated bullets.
I have been reloading for over 50 years and have never KB a gun. I also use TiteGroup.
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Old 10-14-2013, 18:00   #8
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yes you can use them. i have over the years with now problems.
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Old 10-14-2013, 18:01   #9
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Old 10-14-2013, 18:08   #10
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Get a Lee factory crimp die and a jug of Titegroup right away!!!!
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They are but my preference is for naked lead bullets. SJ 40
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Old 10-14-2013, 18:23   #12
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Well that got lively right off the bat! Thanks for all the replies. Copper it is. May look at an after market bbl if I plan on a die of cast bullets. But with 1k of copper plated to load, I think I'm now an "informed" Glock shooter (:-).

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You've got to test them in your guns and your loads. They'll probably work fine. They might not. Do not over do it on the crimp...i.e. just remove the flare the powder funnel puts on the brass.
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Its simple. Don't crimp, just deflare. Use a resonable bell. Don't drive them too fast with a fast powder. In revolvers keep velocity moderate no matter the powder choice. That should cover it.
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Old 10-14-2013, 19:06   #15
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Njl - roger. With 9mm headspacing on the cartridge, I don't crimp anymore than the Lee bullet seater does. Easy peasy lemon squeezey.

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Old 10-14-2013, 19:22   #16
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Shot a tone of Berry's....no problem here.
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I have shot a lot of lead and plated bullets thru Glocks.
Right now I am using X-Treme plated bullets. Their hollow point concave base bullets are suppose to be good up to 1,500 FPS. I do not run them that fast.

Bullet: X-Treme 124gr HP-CP
Brass: Various
Powder: HP-38 @ 4.5gr
Primer: Tula SPP
COAL: 1.130"

They shoot very well from a gen3 G19 with no problems.
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Old 10-14-2013, 19:39   #18
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Get a Lee factory crimp die and a jug of Titegroup right away!!!!

Great advice!

You forgot that you must also get an aftermarket barrel, cuz everyone knows that you can't shoot reloads in stock Glock barrels!
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I respectfully disagree with you. There are copper washed lead bullets that are very similar to plain lead bullets, but plated bullets are not them. Plated depending on manufacturer has a thin copper plating that completely covers any lead and while they are not fmj bullets, they are perfectly safe in Glocks.

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I see and agree , thanks for being civil by the way .
I had some American ( I think ) 40 caliber rounds that were copper washed and they truly sucked big time. At the range we did have a Kboom with them and Glock blamed the ammo.
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I see and agree , thanks for being civil by the way .
I had some American ( I think ) 40 caliber rounds that were copper washed and they truly sucked big time. At the range we did have a Kboom with them and Glock blamed the ammo.
If plated bullets are not loaded right then yes they can suck. Since the gun KB and Glock said it was the ammo. And you said it was with plated ammo. That is telling me that it was reloaded ammo. Did Glock say it was the ammo? Or did Glock say it was because of using plated bullets? I will bet they were inferring to be just reloaded ammo.
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