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Old 10-11-2013, 14:07   #21
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Aside from a single exception, so far, the Gen4's that have come through our range as duty & off-duty weapons have functioned fine.

The exception was a Gen4 G23 that had some extraction/ejection issues. The gun appeared in good condition when I examined it. The RSA was the current one, but the ejector was the older style. I replaced the ejector with the newer style and the gun ran fine for the owner.

Oddly enough, it was a Gen3 9mm (late 2010 production) of my own that gave me some fits. Annoying extraction/ejection issues (unlike a similar older model). I finally replaced the right combination of parts (factory parts) and got it running normally.

As a Glock armorer I'd not have any qualms about recommending a Gen4 to any of our folks (or buying one for myself, except I already own 3 Glocks).
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Old 10-11-2013, 14:10   #22
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So its safe to recommend a gen 4 now or should I still tell people to look for a gen 3?
If they like the Gen 4 features, go for it. I like the Gen 3 better. Acutally, I like the Gen 2 best of all.
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Old 10-11-2013, 15:47   #23
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I have more Glocks than I care to admit. I won't buy one unless it's Gen 4. Nothing wrong with the others, it's just my choice, finger grooves and all. Never regretted a single purchase. Never had a single issue.
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Old 10-11-2013, 17:05   #24
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I would not buy any Glock now unless it is Gen 4. My Gen 4 G31 has been flawless for almost two years of regular range practice. I'd like to have a G33 Gen 4 as well. However, my LGSs can get only Gen 3 versions. So, sorry...not good enough...no sale! :-)
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Old 10-11-2013, 17:55   #25
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G26 Gen 4 with over 1000 rds...not one FTF or FTE using WWB, Aguila, American Eagle, Wichester NATO, Blazer Brass and other assorted premium ammo...no complaints...don't believe everything your hear (bad) about Glocks....
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Old 10-11-2013, 18:11   #26
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Having fired tens of thousands of rounds through Gen 4 Glocks with zero issues all my future Glocks will be Gen 4. The one I shoot the most has fired 48,100 flawless rounds.
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Old 10-11-2013, 18:15   #27
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G26 Gen 4 with over 1000 rds...not one FTF or FTE using WWB, Aguila, American Eagle, Wichester NATO, Blazer Brass and other assorted premium ammo...no complaints...don't believe everything your hear (bad) about Glocks....
So you think when your little 26 runs flawlessly, than all Glocks out there must be flawless too?

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Old 10-11-2013, 18:46   #28
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So you think when your little 26 runs flawlessly, than all Glocks out there must be flawless too?
Axe to grind??

Now come on, did he write anything remotely like what you're suggesting?!
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Old 10-11-2013, 19:11   #29
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I've had 3 Gen 4 Glock 19's since they came out and I've not had the first problem with any of them. I've fired thousands of rounds through them.
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Old 10-11-2013, 19:18   #30
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About 3K through my 2011 vintage G4 19.
No issues at all.

I recommend Gen4 to everyone, as I think the grip pattern and changeable backstraps are superior.
Gen 3's were being reported as having problem about the same time Gen 4's were.
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Old 10-11-2013, 19:49   #31
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Most gun store clerks still believe that a too strong dual recoil assembly was the culprit. The gen3's had the same problems. That's why the recoil spring assemblies in the early gen4 9mm was never the reason of early, and later gen4 9mm problems. Also, the gen4 g23 had initially the same problems (.40 generates more recoil energy) as the 9mm versions, BTFace, and failure to ejects, so that's why it can't be the recoil spring. Glock modified the front end of the dual recoil assemblies, so that it sits better against the slide, and doesn't slip through the slide/muzzle during shooting. Glock had to do something to avoid costly lawsuits, and mass recalls of entire guns. Companies are somewhat/ a little better protected as long as they tried to fix a problem before a lawsuit was filed. The extractor was the culprit all along, IMO.

Anyway, I think that the newer production Glock 19, and others are good to go now. Go buy one and enjoy it!
Have followed your post for sometime now and believe that you have been spot on with your assessment of the problems many of the Glock Gen 4 pistols have had. I realize that fewer folks had problems than those who did not, but also am curious if many folks that own the newer Gen 4 pistols had an earlier Gen 3 to compare with, would they be able to detect functional differences. Consistent extraction/ejection comes to mind vs. dribble on the wrist or forcibly hit in the head. Perhaps some folks accept this as the norm.

Hopefully Glock will take from the Gen 4 experience that when and if new problems occur regarding future Gen 5 production, to keep a better pulse on problems and have the attitude to confront them head on instead of waiting for folks to come to them. Are you listening Glock??
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Old 10-11-2013, 19:51   #32
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Fixed??? Really? Tried to help a young police officer who's new issue g17 after 400 rounds was hitting him in the head. Watched a man with a new G19 bang round after round off his noggin right out of the box. so their are still problems. The newer ones are less likely to have problems. But have no doubt they are still out there. For over two years people have been saying the problems are fixed. Then why are their still new problem guns? Lots of Apex and Lone Wolf extractors being sold for all the problems gone.
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Old 10-12-2013, 19:55   #33
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Uncountable rounds through a Gen 4 17, 19, (2) 21s, 23, 26, 27 and 29. Not a single hiccup.
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Old 10-12-2013, 20:09   #34
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How do I know if my Gen 4 G27 needs the spring upgrade ?
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Old 10-12-2013, 20:13   #35
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I have just over 4000 through my 17 with no issues. My 29 only has about 1000. Still... no issues.
4,000 rounds, no issues, sounds pretty good.

I've been a 1911 guy (my daily carry gun for <20 years) for quite a while, but in the last decade or so my 1st Gen G17 has really begun to grow on me.

Having a buddy down at Quantico fix the slide with an RMR for my aging eyes, just as an experiment. :-)

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Old 10-12-2013, 20:16   #36
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Only rational reason I've heard for getting a gen 3 is for the higher caliber pistols, so one may purchase third party higher pressure springs to handle recoil. Like the G20, and Mods for the G21.
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Old 10-12-2013, 20:20   #37
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No problems yet with my two new Gen 4's.
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Old 10-12-2013, 20:45   #38
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I know, I know, every gun has issues. Glocks included. Glock did handle it well by not denying that the gun had a problem, but I never heard anything about the problem being solved.
OK, I give. What 'problem' do you speak of? G27 Gen4 owner, several hundred rounds of mixed brands/types, no issues.
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Old 10-12-2013, 20:50   #39
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OK, I give. What 'problem' do you speak of? G27 Gen4 owner, several hundred rounds of mixed brands/types, no issues.
As of date, i've shot about 400 rnds thru my g27 gen 4 no probs at all, no break in ...nothing...some of it was cheap steel russian stuff too...

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Old 10-12-2013, 21:14   #40
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I've only had two Gen4s. But they both work. April '12 production G23 with a few thousand rds. April '13 production G17 with a few hundred. I've been happy with both so far. No hiccups and ejection seems to be no different from any of the other pistols I've owned.
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