Home Forums Classifieds Blogs Today's Posts Search Social Groups



  
SIGN-UP
Notices

Glock Talk
Welcome To The Glock Talk Forums.

 
  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-11-2013, 09:36   #1
Glocks n' Crocs
Senior Member
 
Glocks n' Crocs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 121
Gen 4 Fixed Yet?

Has Glock fixed gen 4 yet? I just bought a gen 3 G30 45 ACP and I have a hard time recommending Glocks to new gun owners due to the inexcusable performance of gen 4. Even though gen 4 has been out for how many years?

With that said my gen 3 G30 has the dual recoil spring.
__________________
NRA member
Glocks n' Crocs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2013, 09:39   #2
xnicodemusx
Custom fitted
 
xnicodemusx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Tampa, Fl
Posts: 251
I own two gen 4 glocks. Never have I had a problem with either of them.
__________________
Only the dead have seen the end of war. - Plato
xnicodemusx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2013, 09:39   #3
t8er
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 63
They replaced the recoil springs and the guns have been fine. I've got a gen 4 G19. 200rds so far and zero issues
t8er is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2013, 09:47   #4
Glocks n' Crocs
Senior Member
 
Glocks n' Crocs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 121
No offence gentle men, but have you shot thousands of rounds out of a gen 4 Glock with the "new" spring upgrade?
__________________
NRA member

Last edited by Glocks n' Crocs; 10-11-2013 at 09:48..
Glocks n' Crocs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2013, 09:49   #5
t8er
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 63
None taken. Only had the gun for a couple days. Need some more time.
t8er is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2013, 09:52   #6
libarts.tech
Charles Wagoner
 
libarts.tech's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Norman, OK
Posts: 176
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glocks n' Crocs View Post
No offence gentle men, but have you shot thousands of rounds out of a gen 4 Glock with the "new" spring upgrade?
5 thousand or so rounds through mine. Works perfectly.
libarts.tech is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2013, 09:56   #7
xnicodemusx
Custom fitted
 
xnicodemusx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Tampa, Fl
Posts: 251
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glocks n' Crocs View Post
No offence gentle men, but have you shot thousands of rounds out of a gen 4 Glock with the "new" spring upgrade?
I have just over 4000 through my 17 with no issues. My 29 only has about 1000. Still... no issues.
__________________
Only the dead have seen the end of war. - Plato
xnicodemusx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2013, 10:06   #8
MarcDW
MDW Guns
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Maine USA
Posts: 5,109
My G31 4Gen is my carry gun.
So far over 1K through it and no issues.
Also, I disagree about the "inexcusable performance" remark.
Practically every manufacturer has issues with new products.
It's the question how the company deals with it and I would say Glock did a great job there!!
__________________
Glock Armorer - FFL/01/08/SOT
Importer of fine firearms
see
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
for current inventory
MarcDW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2013, 10:15   #9
Glocks n' Crocs
Senior Member
 
Glocks n' Crocs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 121
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarcDW View Post
Also, I disagree about the "inexcusable performance" remark.
Practically every manufacturer has issues with new products.
It's the question how the company deals with it and I would say Glock did a great job there!!
Yes their marketing department did well by avoiding the word "recall" and using "exchange" . I know, I know, every gun has issues. Glocks included. Glock did handle it well by not denying that the gun had a problem, but I never heard anything about the problem being solved.
__________________
NRA member
Glocks n' Crocs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2013, 10:24   #10
texagun
Senior Member
 
texagun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: North Texas
Posts: 617
Quote:
Originally Posted by t8er View Post
They replaced the recoil springs and the guns have been fine. I've got a gen 4 G19. 200rds so far and zero issues
When did they change the recoil springs? I'm wondering if the guns on dealer's shelves right now have the upgraded springs. Is there a serial number range to look for that has the new springs?
texagun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2013, 10:29   #11
t8er
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 63
The gun spring issues were with Gen 4 Glocks sold before June of 2011 I think. Might have been 12. All of the new guns have the redesigned recoil springs.
t8er is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2013, 10:30   #12
libarts.tech
Charles Wagoner
 
libarts.tech's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Norman, OK
Posts: 176
Quote:
Originally Posted by texagun View Post
When did they change the recoil springs? I'm wondering if the guns on dealer's shelves right now have the upgraded springs. Is there a serial number range to look for that has the new springs?
The recall started back sometime around 2011, right? I bought my Gen4 G19 in 2012 and all the internals were up to date when I got it. Given how quickly Glocks fly off the shelves I'm sure there are no old ones left, or at least extremely few.
libarts.tech is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2013, 10:38   #13
texagun
Senior Member
 
texagun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: North Texas
Posts: 617
Thanks for the quick replies Guys. Good to know.
texagun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2013, 10:50   #14
Commencefire
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 149
2 9mm G4's no problems, my wife and I shoot them just about every week. I will get a 30s G4 when they come out.
__________________
Colt 45 Combat Commander, Glock 30s Gen 3, Glock 17 Gen 3, Glock 19 Gen 4, Glock 26 Gen 4, SA XDM 45 3.8, SA XDS 45 3.3
Revolvers 22LR
Commencefire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2013, 10:52   #15
bac1023
Senior Member
 
bac1023's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: PA
Posts: 94,356
They're definitely much better now.
__________________
.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
bac1023 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2013, 11:11   #16
Glocks n' Crocs
Senior Member
 
Glocks n' Crocs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 121
So its safe to recommend a gen 4 now or should I still tell people to look for a gen 3?
__________________
NRA member
Glocks n' Crocs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2013, 11:19   #17
ksmedman
Senior Member
 
ksmedman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: In the middle
Posts: 384
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glocks n' Crocs View Post
No offence gentle men, but have you shot thousands of rounds out of a gen 4 Glock with the "new" spring upgrade?
About 3K through my 2011 vintage G4 19.
No issues at all.

I recommend Gen4 to everyone, as I think the grip pattern and changeable backstraps are superior.

Last edited by ksmedman; 10-11-2013 at 11:20..
ksmedman is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2013, 11:44   #18
Made in Austria
Senior Member
 
Made in Austria's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 1,754
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glocks n' Crocs View Post
So its safe to recommend a gen 4 now or should I still tell people to look for a gen 3?
Most gun store clerks still believe that a too strong dual recoil assembly was the culprit. The gen3's had the same problems. That's why the recoil spring assemblies in the early gen4 9mm was never the reason of early, and later gen4 9mm problems. Also, the gen4 g23 had initially the same problems (.40 generates more recoil energy) as the 9mm versions, BTFace, and failure to ejects, so that's why it can't be the recoil spring. Glock modified the front end of the dual recoil assemblies, so that it sits better against the slide, and doesn't slip through the slide/muzzle during shooting. Glock had to do something to avoid costly lawsuits, and mass recalls of entire guns. Companies are somewhat/ a little better protected as long as they tried to fix a problem before a lawsuit was filed. The extractor was the culprit all along, IMO.

Anyway, I think that the newer production Glock 19, and others are good to go now. Go buy one and enjoy it!

Last edited by Made in Austria; 10-11-2013 at 11:57..
Made in Austria is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2013, 12:09   #19
Nolan19
Member
 
Nolan19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Indiana
Posts: 39
I've got (2) gen 4 G19's and (1) gen 4 G17 and haven't had any issues with any of them. The G17 is at 2500 rounds and the G19 is at 1800 rounds. And 99.9% of it has been the cheap 115g target ammo. The only gen 4 I had somewhat of an issues with is my G21 that was having weak ejections, but now after 850 rounds or so it's running perfect. I think the tight RSA just needed loosened up.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

( LIKE, SHARE, COMMENT and SUBSCRIBE )
Nolan19 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2013, 13:50   #20
Longshot68
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 24
The Gen 4 22 I bought two weeks ago was subject to the recall/exchange and had not been upgraded yet. Quick call to Glock and 2 days ago the new spring showed up. All is well. I had put a couple hundred rounds through it prior to the exchange and it worked flawlessly. I couldn't be happier.
Longshot68 is offline   Reply With Quote

 
  
Reply


Tags
gen 3, gen 4, glock, problems
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 23:44.




Homepage
FAQ
Forums
Calendar
Advertise
Gallery
GT Wiki
GT Blogs
Social Groups
Classifieds


Users Currently Online: 902
243 Members
659 Guests

Most users ever online: 2,672
Aug 11, 2014 at 2:31