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Old 10-02-2013, 16:03   #21
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Obamacare is doomed because the Federal Government is running it. Medicare, Welfare, Medicaid, Social Security,.... Every benefit program they have ever started is a mess.
And, going broke.
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Old 10-02-2013, 18:42   #22
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Maybe someone here can confirm...

Did I hear correctly yesterday that only 3 million people attempted to enroll?

If that's true, that certainly doesn't bode well for the ACA. I'll bet the administration was counting on much higher numbers than that.

Anyone know?
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Old 10-02-2013, 19:03   #23
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Just social security with a medical premise. I don't think O care will last as long as the social security scam though.


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Old 10-02-2013, 19:05   #24
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We can't let obama take all the credit for the greatest threat to our nations economy. He couldn't have done it without the democrats in congress. They must also be held responsible for this disaster. Co-conspirators, if you will.

Many democrats are coming up for re-election in 2014. Some who voted for obamacare and others who weren't around then but strongly support it now. These people must be held responsible for obamacare and the public must be informed that they are just as much a threat to our nation as the traitor obama. This socialism crap won't just go away when obama leaves office in 2017. As long as there are democrats there will be a threat to the American way of life.

Obamacare also has a secondary name...democratcare.
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Old 10-03-2013, 17:47   #25
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Obamacare is working exactly as designed: Soon, the pain will be so great that we will ask for single-payer.
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Old 10-03-2013, 19:32   #27
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Maybe someone here can confirm...

Did I hear correctly yesterday that only 3 million people attempted to enroll?

If that's true, that certainly doesn't bode well for the ACA. I'll bet the administration was counting on much higher numbers than that.

Anyone know?
I heard there were 4.7 million hits on the website on day 1. From CNN - who pointed out that 4.6 million of them were probably reporters like them! They were joking about the number, naturally, but the truth is a lot of those hits were reporters, and I'd bet I wasn't the only person in the medical field to (try to) hit it myself to be better prepared to field questions that we'll inevitably be getting.
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Old 10-03-2013, 19:37   #28
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I heard there were 4.7 million hits on the website on day 1. From CNN - who pointed out that 4.6 million of them were probably reporters like them! They were joking about the number, naturally, but the truth is a lot of those hits were reporters, and I'd bet I wasn't the only person in the medical field to (try to) hit it myself to be better prepared to field questions that we'll inevitably be getting.
That's kinda what I thought, too. I just don't see people flocking out in droves to sign up for this.
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Obamacare is working exactly as designed: Soon, the pain will be so great that we will ask for single-payer.
I get the feeling we'll be hearing more and more of this in the days to come. The leftists that despise Obama now for helping the evil capitalists in the insurance industry may one day hold him up as a hero...and incredible chessmaster...!
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Im wondering what you to to prove insurance to avoid tax give policy card to tax agent?

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I get the feeling we'll be hearing more and more of this in the days to come. The leftists that despise Obama now for helping the evil capitalists in the insurance industry may one day hold him up as a hero...and incredible chessmaster...!
I don't know that this is really chess, or a surprise. Several leading democrats were on the record as saying that Obamacare was simply paving the way for single-payer. In fact, I remember a widely distributed clip of Barney Frank saying exactly this. Would post it but I didn't bother saving it. It probably comes right up on Google. I believe this was always the plan.
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Old 10-07-2013, 09:04   #32
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It will be a 2 level system. People who rely on the govt will get what the govt says they are worth. People who can pay will get the care they can afford.

I'm already part of the 2 level system. The insurance company doesn't like my doctors. So I pay for the better care that I get. It isn't cheap, and everybody is going to find that out.
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Obamacare was never intended to work. It's simply the first step in government controlled health care. When this fiasco blows up, the American People will DEMAND that congress fix it. Then, they'll introduce what they wanted all along. Government controlled health care. And we the people will be glad they "fixed" it. :(
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Obamacare was never intended to work. It's simply the first step in government controlled health care. When this fiasco blows up, the American People will DEMAND that congress fix it. Then, they'll introduce what they wanted all along. Government controlled health care. And we the people will be glad they "fixed" it. :(
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Obamacare was never intended to work. It's simply the first step in government controlled health care. When this fiasco blows up, the American People will DEMAND that congress fix it. Then, they'll introduce what they wanted all along. Government controlled health care. And we the people will be glad they "fixed" it. :(
While blaming the greedy insurance companies, the free market and Capitalism for any failures. It's their modus operandi.
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Old 10-08-2013, 07:29   #36
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Obamacare was never intended to work. It's simply the first step in government controlled health care. When this fiasco blows up, the American People will DEMAND that congress fix it. Then, they'll introduce what they wanted all along. Government controlled health care. And we the people will be glad they "fixed" it. :(
That's what I suspect, too, and why even the Democrats dont' care if it is successful or not. As a failure, they feel it will open the door to government completely controlling health care, which is obviously their end game.
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...It is a Ponzi scheme in the sense that, to make things affordable for the old, expensive people, they rely on young, cheap people to enter the system with a bunch of money...
And that's different from how health insurance works today in what way, exactly?
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And that's different from how health insurance works today in what way, exactly?
In that it's mandatory and you are fined if you don't participate?
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In that it's mandatory and you are fined if you don't participate?
Which was not included in his "ponzi scheme" point, at all.

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Which was not included in his "ponzi scheme" point, at all.

Right?
Well, as bad as Ponzi schemes are when you join them of your own volition, I think it would be worse to be made to join one.
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