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Old 03-03-2015, 20:07   #1
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What happens if you don't pay the tax for not having medical insurance?

According to this article, apparently nothing unless you were anticipating a refund which IRS might seize.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphi...+for+Forbes%29


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Old 03-03-2015, 20:16   #2
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What happens if you don't pay the tax for not having medical insurance?
They send someone to break your legs.
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Old 03-03-2015, 20:26   #3
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Old 03-03-2015, 20:43   #4
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Correct. If you always underpay the IRS, like you should, its never a problem. You just send in your payment, less the penalty (I don't believe its technically a tax), and you're done.

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Old 03-03-2015, 22:39   #5
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The answer - like every other answer I have gotten from 2 professional tax attorneys on the subject - is that nobody has a clue, but everyone has opinions.

We will learn much more after tax season is over I would guess.
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Old 03-03-2015, 22:48   #6
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Well, nothing could happen, you could get a sternly worded letter, you could get thrown in the slammer, you could get killed when being arrested for not paying a tax. It seems that all of the above have occurred to people not paying a tax.
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Old 03-03-2015, 23:56   #7
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WHY oh, why do you suppose they tied it to the single most ruthless collection agency the world has ever seen ?
17 thousand NEW employees is how.
The only job market doing worth a crap is the government .
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What is unclear is if the IRS can attach interest to the unpaid shared responsibility payment. While the law may currently prohibit traditional collection enforcement action with regard to the penalty, I believe it's silent regarding the accrued interest. It could very well be that the IRS could take collection action for the interest portion.

Right now, I don't believe the IRS computers can tell the difference between a underpaid tax balance and the shared responsibility payment. To the computer, it's all the same. I suspect that balance due collection notices will still be mailed forcing taxpayers to contact the IRS or hire a professional (like me) to deal with them. Someone will end up paying me an equivalent amount of money to keep the IRS off their back.
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That is correct! Always pays to owe a bit .
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I was honest and I paid over $200

For not having health insurance for three months last year..... What an idiot.
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Why doesn't EVERYONE just tell them to **** off?
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Don't pay the IRS? They take everything. Everything.

Ever see an IRS asset seizure? I have. A US Marshal showed up with a court order and a moving van and crew and took everything out of the recording studio below the radio station where I worked. They even took the potted plants. And the office supplies. The paper towels. Everything. They even tried to take one of our tape recorders, but I had a receipt to show it belonged to the station.

So, go ahead and don't pay them what you owe. And borrow a computer later and come tell us how it worked out for you.
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According to this article, apparently nothing unless you were anticipating a refund which IRS might seize.
Here's the thing..... a HUGE portion of those people qualify for the earned income tax credit, which means their refund is MORE than they paid in anyway. Those people will still get something back, just not as much.

Basically, they're paying the fine with money they never earned anyway!!!!!!!!!! Do you think they're going to complain?

Hell no! They're going to go buy the 42" instead of the 60".
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I have a few deadbeat relatives who owe IRS. One owes $1.2M. None pay, IRS does nothing. It seems to me as long as you do not file false returns, nothing happens except an occasional demand/reminder letter of how much you owe.

The $1.2M relative has owed since 1995.
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Here's the thing..... a HUGE portion of those people qualify for the earned income tax credit, which means their refund is MORE than they paid in anyway. Those people will still get something back, just not as much.

Basically, they're paying the fine with money they never earned anyway!!!!!!!!!! Do you think they're going to complain?

Hell no! They're going to go buy the 42" instead of the 60".

I stated the same thing in another thread and a posted couldn't believe what I was talking about. People who have to pay taxes usually have insurance as they deem it to be nessccary. If you can't afford it then you can get an exemption and if you got a refund then most likely you didn't "really" pay the shared tax to begin with.
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I have a few deadbeat relatives who owe IRS. One owes $1.2M. None pay, IRS does nothing. It seems to me as long as you do not file false returns, nothing happens except an occasional demand/reminder letter of how much you owe.

The $1.2M relative has owed since 1995.
If he owes because of businesses which is most likely what happened and he nothing to take then what can they do other then put him in jail. They don't want to do that. They just take your refunds for the rest of you life if ever get them.
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I stated the same thing in another thread and a posted couldn't believe what I was talking about. People who have to pay taxes usually have insurance as they deem it to be nessccary. If you can't afford it then you can get an exemption and if you got a refund then most likely you didn't "really" pay the shared tax to begin with.
You are absolutely correct. It amazes me the people that complain about taxes, but don't really pay taxes, other than sales tax, which might actually be the fairest tax there is.

In full disclosure, I qualify for the earned income tax credit, as does most of the Military, but I didn't always. I have vivid memories of the infamous "alternative minimum tax". For those who don't know what it is, look it up. We used to pay more in taxes than I make now.

Anyway, I came to the Military late in life, with a family, and we have absolutely no regrets. That said, I will not apologize for the benefits my family receives. They've sacrificed more than the benefits are worth, but understand the value of freedom and liberty are immeasurable. Most people wouldn't know that a Sergeant in the United States Army, married with two kids, is probably eligible for food stamps and WIC.

All that to say this: If you love this Country, and you love your FREDOM and LIBERTY, then PAY ATTENTION.

There is much at stake.
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If he owes because of businesses which is most likely what happened and he nothing to take then what can they do other then put him in jail. They don't want to do that. They just take your refunds for the rest of you life if ever get them.
Not what "most likely happened", but yes that is my point. You do not pay, you do not go to jail as long as you file proper returns.
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If he owes because of businesses which is most likely what happened and he nothing to take then what can they do other then put him in jail. They don't want to do that. They just take your refunds for the rest of you life if ever get them.
In some ways like liability insurance when a person owns a car. If that is all you own, why bother? License suspended for failure to meet financial responsibility requirement? Buy minimum required coverage for minimum required time and don't renew. Or just drive without the license.


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