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Old 09-16-2013, 00:30   #1
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What I Did Today.

I tried to post a link this morning from my PDA so that the terminally bored could follow my progress as I flew this "cold soak" flight. Cold soaks are the final step in completion test flight process after an interior has been added to a "green" aircraft. On the cold soak flight we do sound and temperature surveys and make sure that all the entertainment equipment and cabinetry function as designed after being cold soaked with outside air temps of -56 C and colder for hours on end.

I apparently failed, so here are the results.

The Okie Corral

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Old 09-16-2013, 03:50   #2
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Ok, I'll ask, why did you fail?

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Old 09-16-2013, 04:46   #3
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Ok, I'll ask, why did you fail?

"I question things because I am human"
Unknown. I tried to start the thread with a post from my iPhone before the flight rather than after it as I did. I didn't know until after I landed that it didn't work.

Sketchy reception in the hangar? Just business as usual from AT&T, what did you expect? Harmonic Convergence?
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Old 09-16-2013, 05:06   #4
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I thought that you meant that the flight failed. Came pretty close to my house in Northern KY.
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Old 09-16-2013, 06:17   #5
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I thought that you meant that the flight failed. Came pretty close to my house in Northern KY.
That's what I thought he meant to Glad the flight didn't fail, that would be way worse than a thread fail
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Old 09-16-2013, 06:27   #6
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I thought that you meant that the flight failed. Came pretty close to my house in Northern KY.
Nah, the jet never fails - it's dispatch reliability rate is greater than 99.8%. If I had known you were down there I would have waved.

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Old 09-16-2013, 06:33   #7
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twelve states? nice way to see a quarter of the country in a day. :-)
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Old 09-16-2013, 06:38   #8
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Some of the Gulfstream test pilots get pretty creative on cold soak flights - like this GV crew did when they traced a "GV" in the sky with their flight path.

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Old 09-16-2013, 09:30   #9
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Got any production test pilot jobs open? I fly a pretty good jet.
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Old 09-16-2013, 10:49   #10
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how cold is the cockpit when the back end is -56 ?
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how cold is the cockpit when the back end is -56 ?

Warm, jets have good heaters.
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how cold is the cockpit when the back end is -56 ?
We regulate the cockpit and cabin to 72 degrees Fahrenheit for the tri-level temperature survey. The environmental system divides the interior into three sections - the cockpit, forward cabin and aft cabin. In each section I can adjust the temperature to automatically maintain any temperature from 60F to 90F.
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Got any production test pilot jobs open? I fly a pretty good jet.
Dunno. Check the General Dynamics website; Human Capital does all the hiring.
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When I read your post I thought you meant the post failed. Then the next post got me wondering if it was something the airplane or the flight that failed. Fortunately reading onward led me to be satisfied that my first guess was correct. I am guessing that something in the link you provided might be the tail number and hopefully that is not a problem for that to be public here.
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Old 09-17-2013, 00:15   #15
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When I read your post I thought you meant the post failed. Then the next post got me wondering if it was something the airplane or the flight that failed. Fortunately reading onward led me to be satisfied that my first guess was correct. I am guessing that something in the link you provided might be the tail number and hopefully that is not a problem for that to be public here.
Copy that. I thought it might have been an interesting distraction for GTers to occasionally check-in to see my progress as I droned around the US.

Actually, these cold soaks aren't so bad. When we were doing function and reliability testing on the GV - where the FAA required us to fly the max range of the jet - we would take off from Savannah, climb to altitude, then fly to Bangor, Maine, hang a left; fly to Seatle, hang a left; fly to Los Angeles, hang a left; fly to Houston, make a right; fly to Miami, hang a left; fly to Nassau in the Bahamas, hang a left; fly to Savannah, then make a right to fly out into the Warning Area in the Atlantic to fly box patterns until we hit max range and could take the jet back to the barn.

It was like practice bleeding - about 1% better than doing drag polars in the jet.
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Did you get a chance to do any of the testing with the HIAPER ?
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Copy that. I thought it might have been an interesting distraction for GTers to occasionally check-in to see my progress as I droned around the US.

Actually, these cold soaks aren't so bad. When we were doing function and reliability testing on the GV - where the FAA required us to fly the max range of the jet - we would take off from Savannah, climb to altitude, then fly to Bangor, Maine, hang a left; fly to Seatle, hang a left; fly to Los Angeles, hang a left; fly to Houston, make a right; fly to Miami, hang a left; fly to Nassau in the Bahamas, hang a left; fly to Savannah, then make a right to fly out into the Warning Area in the Atlantic to fly box patterns until we hit max range and could take the jet back to the barn.

It was like practice bleeding - about 1% better than doing drag polars in the jet.
Why stop at Bangor? No canada?
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Did you get a chance to do any of the testing with the HIAPER ?
I was the initial project pilot for the HIAPER GV which was later redesignated the NCAR GV.
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Why stop at Bangor? No canada?
We would enter Canadian airspace North of Detroit.
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Do they serve cocktails on those 'cold soaks'?

I'm straight north of the western point of Lake Superior. I stood in my yard, waving, all day. CAN YOU SEE ME NOW?
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Copy that. I thought it might have been an interesting distraction for GTers to occasionally check-in to see my progress as I droned around the US.

Actually, these cold soaks aren't so bad. When we were doing function and reliability testing on the GV - where the FAA required us to fly the max range of the jet - we would take off from Savannah, climb to altitude, then fly to Bangor, Maine, hang a left; fly to Seatle, hang a left; fly to Los Angeles, hang a left; fly to Houston, make a right; fly to Miami, hang a left; fly to Nassau in the Bahamas, hang a left; fly to Savannah, then make a right to fly out into the Warning Area in the Atlantic to fly box patterns until we hit max range and could take the jet back to the barn.

It was like practice bleeding - about 1% better than doing drag polars in the jet.
Wow. What is your Rmax? Adding your flight up in my head, that seems like about 9,000 miles. At ~600 KIAS, is that like a 15 hour flight? No need to fat finger on that one.
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G550 - 6,750 nautical miles.

G650 - 7,250 nautical miles.

My longest flight to date in the jet has been 14:47.
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G550 - 6,750 nautical miles.

G650 - 7,250 nautical miles.

My longest flight to date in the jet has been 14:47.
Most enjoyable flight of my life was on a 550 from St. Louis to Wonewok in Minnesota. They are truly a class of their own.

I have been on a 7X a few times, but it wasn't the same.
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RKSS-KPDK 14.2 GV. That was my longest.
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