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Old 09-03-2013, 19:13   #41
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Old 09-03-2013, 19:43   #42
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Old 09-03-2013, 20:02   #43
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Sounds like Obama and his "Red Line".
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Old 09-03-2013, 20:13   #44
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EDIT: Deleted because, like a Glock Talkers, I commented based mainly on what was said in the thread, before reading the guy's actual comments.
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Old 09-03-2013, 20:19   #45
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well, you would expect a Chicago politician to speak stupidly....
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Old 09-03-2013, 21:07   #46
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they gonna have to shoot better than many of the LEO I have shot with to hit ANYTHING they are "aiming" at..... is a legal carrying citizen being drawn/fired on by LE simply because he legally has a gun justified in returning fire?

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Old 09-03-2013, 21:22   #48
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they gonna have to shoot better than many of the LEO I have shot with to hit ANYTHING they are "aiming" at..... is a legal carrying citizen being drawn/fired on by LE simply because he legally has a gun justified in returning fire?

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Old 09-03-2013, 21:23   #49
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I kinda get the feeling that if a permit holder did get shot by the police in his city, he wouldn't feel too bad about it.

Seriously, I think that what the "chief" said regarding this issue is some of the dumbest sh** I've ever heard.
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Just as I suspected, OP was disingenuous at best.


“You put more guns on the street expect more shootings,” McCarthy said. “I don’t care if they’re licensed legal firearms, people who are not highly trained… putting guns in their hands is a recipe for disaster. So I’ll train our officers that there is a concealed carry law, but when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire and we’re going to have tragedies as a result of that. I’m telling you right up front.”

The first half is the typical anti gun nonsense. The second half is the meat and potatoes- I'd expect all of the LEOs I work with to use force if necessary, even against a CCW holder.

Shoot, have at it. Every state should be shall issue and most folks I've come into contact with the novelty wears off after a few weeks/months of having a permit.




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Old 09-03-2013, 21:56   #51
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Just as I suspected, OP was disingenuous at best.


“You put more guns on the street expect more shootings,” McCarthy said. “I don’t care if they’re licensed legal firearms, people who are not highly trained… putting guns in their hands is a recipe for disaster. So I’ll train our officers that there is a concealed carry law, but when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire and we’re going to have tragedies as a result of that. I’m telling you right up front.”

The first half is the typical anti gun nonsense. The second half is the meat and potatoes- I'd expect all of the LEOs I work with to use force if necessary, even against a CCW holder.

Shoot, have at it. Every state should be shall issue and most folks I've come into contact with the novelty wears off after a few weeks/months of having a permit.




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Yeah, not being an idiot, when the PD rolls up I'm likely to drop my gun like it was burning my hand. That said, though, this guy's bias comes through loud and clear. He's not warning against this event, he's hoping for it! The guy hates the idea of armed citizens, and can only envision them being at odds with LEOs, he cannot imagine a world in which we might actually be on the same side. JMO.
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Old 09-03-2013, 23:08   #53
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Yeah, not being an idiot, when the PD rolls up I'm likely to drop my gun like it was burning my hand. That said, though, this guy's bias comes through loud and clear. He's not warning against this event, he's hoping for it! The guy hates the idea of armed citizens, and can only envision them being at odds with LEOs, he cannot imagine a world in which we might actually be on the same side. JMO.
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Old 09-03-2013, 23:35   #54
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What he said was, if you face a cop with a gun in your hand, you'll get shot. I would expect that to happen anywhere.
Really.

"So I’ll train our officers that there is a concealed carry law, but when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire and we’re going to have tragedies as a result of that. "

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Just as I suspected, OP was disingenuous at best.


“You put more guns on the street expect more shootings,” McCarthy said. “I don’t care if they’re licensed legal firearms, people who are not highly trained… putting guns in their hands is a recipe for disaster. So I’ll train our officers that there is a concealed carry law, but when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire and we’re going to have tragedies as a result of that. I’m telling you right up front.”

The first half is the typical anti gun nonsense. The second half is the meat and potatoes- I'd expect all of the LEOs I work with to use force if necessary, even against a CCW holder.

Shoot, have at it. Every state should be shall issue and most folks I've come into contact with the novelty wears off after a few weeks/months of having a permit.




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Thanks. I should have read it before commenting, rather than taking what the GT nuts said, at face value.

In my defense, it takes a long time for outside pages to open on my internet connection (here, I pay $90 a month for iinternet access that is so slow youtube videos won't play at all). So I don't always read the real article.
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:05   #57
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Really.

"So I’ll train our officers that there is a concealed carry law, but when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire and we’re going to have tragedies as a result of that. "
Yes, really. That's the training every officer in every state gets. It is certainly the training I give them, in Kentucky, and we are about the most gun friendly state in the US.
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The outrage died with a whimper once reading comprehension stepped in.
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The outrage died with a whimper once reading comprehension stepped in.
Gets the feeble minds enraged when they think cops are gunning CCW holders down...


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