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Old 09-19-2013, 09:50   #1
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Regarding the Dillon SDB....

Does it come with a carbide sizing die or do the cases need lubed?
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Old 09-19-2013, 09:59   #2
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They are carbide, but many still recommend light lube for faster and easier production.
http://www.dillonprecision.com/conte...ual_Dies_Parts

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Old 09-19-2013, 10:17   #3
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Even with carbide dies, you would want to use Hornady One Shot lube. You don't have to clean it off.

I put a bunch of brass in a 1 gallon ZipLock bag, spray in some lube and shake the bag. I might even give it a second spray.

Let the lube dry a bit and you are good to go.

Lubed brass is easier on the equipment, the brass and the operator.

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I have an SDB setup just for 9mm, and I don't lube the cases and the press is super smooth. Now if I did use lube it would only make things even smoother, but I personally don't bother.

When I loaded 9mm on the 550, I did find that a bit of lube made things run smoother, just never needed it on the SDB.
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Sorry to ask an off topic question but here goes.

creophus, just curious. Did you go from the 550 to the SDB just for volume? I haven't shot anything but 9mm in years but still haven't decided between the two.

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Sorry to ask an off topic question but here goes.

creophus, just curious. Did you go from the 550 to the SDB just for volume? I haven't shot anything but 9mm in years but still haven't decided between the two.

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The SDB came along at a great price, so I added it to the reloading press family. This freed up the 550 for other calibers and larger runs.

The SDB is dedicated to feeding the 9mm subgun.
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According to Dillon, the 550 is still faster than the SDB
http://www.dillonprecision.com/#/cus...-reloader.html

Some people like to dedicate a press to a particular caliber. Loading several calibers on a press like the 650 means you have to load a BUNCH every time you convert because it is a PITA - especially if the primer size changes. It's not the kind of thing I would want to do a few times each day!

So, for a frequently loaded caliber, it might make sense to dedicate a press. It might not be the fastest press on the planet but it might not be the most used caliber either.

My wife wants to start reloading. I assume she wants to load for her .40 S&W. Yes, she could use my 550 or 650 and deal with the conversion issues. Or, I could just buy an SDB and leave it set for .40. Then she could load any time she wants and it wouldn't interfere with whatever I might be loading.

The SDB can make all the sense in the world under certain conditions. But for a general purpose press, using conventional dies and loading several calibers (including rifle) the 550 is a better bet.

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According to Dillon, the 550 is still faster than the SDB
http://www.dillonprecision.com/#/cus...-reloader.html

Some people like to dedicate a press to a particular caliber. Loading several calibers on a press like the 650 means you have to load a BUNCH every time you convert because it is a PITA - especially if the primer size changes. It's not the kind of thing I would want to do a few times each day!

So, for a frequently loaded caliber, it might make sense to dedicate a press. It might not be the fastest press on the planet but it might not be the most used caliber either.

My wife wants to start reloading. I assume she wants to load for her .40 S&W. Yes, she could use my 550 or 650 and deal with the conversion issues. Or, I could just buy an SDB and leave it set for .40. Then she could load any time she wants and it wouldn't interfere with whatever I might be loading.

The SDB can make all the sense in the world under certain conditions. But for a general purpose press, using conventional dies and loading several calibers (including rifle) the 550 is a better bet.

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Spot on.

I know the 550 is rated for a higher speed, I just find that when I load, I don't go nearly as fast as what they claim. Even when everything is staged and ready to go.

The 550 has a lot going for it that the SDB doesn't (like being able to load rifle rounds), but for a dedicated pistol caliber, I think for the money and what you get it can't be beat.

For me, that added volume and not having to switch the 550 as often was a real plus.
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Thanks for your replies. Appreciate them.
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Spot on.

I know the 550 is rated for a higher speed, I just find that when I load, I don't go nearly as fast as what they claim. Even when everything is staged and ready to go.
Nor do I! I don't even come close. All it takes is a jam in the case feeder mechanism because a 10mm case got in with a .45 ACP and there is some downtime. Now, I could spend more time sorting cases or spend it clearing jams but either way, it adds to the time of reloading.

There are less opportunities for failure in a manual feed press but it's slower.

The auto-indexing of the SDB is a huge plus in my book. It's just one less opportunity to make a mistake. Young people don't make mistakes but us older folks, we need all the help we can get!

Even given the number of presses I already have, I am seriously thinking about an SDB for my wife. It's simple, it's dedicated, it has auto-indexing, it's pretty much fool-proof and it's fast enough. I like the idea!

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Old 09-19-2013, 16:07   #12
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The SDB came along at a great price, so I added it to the reloading press family. This freed up the 550 for other calibers and larger runs.

The SDB is dedicated to feeding the 9mm subgun.
Hey Creo, how about a pic of the sub-gun?
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Old 09-19-2013, 16:49   #13
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According to Dillon, the 550 is still faster than the SDB
http://www.dillonprecision.com/#/cus...-reloader.html

My wife wants to start reloading. I assume she wants to load for her .40 S&W. Yes, she could use my 550 or 650 and deal with the conversion issues. Or, I could just buy an SDB and leave it set for .40. Then she could load any time she wants and it wouldn't interfere with whatever I might be loading.

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I guess you are safe when your wife wants it - but for me, I was playing with fire and didn't realize it. Back in the day when both my wife and I were shooting 150 rounds a week EACH at the trap/skeet range, I suggested that she start pulling the handle a little on the 9000G.

She reminded me that she does the laundry and as long as she washes my dirty clothes, I'll load her shells and not complain about it. I assure you that you were given the "G" rated version of the conversation.

I might have been born in the morning, but not that morning. As a result, her ammo was ready to go each week and I never mentioned it again. All of the old men that were on her trap team (I shot skeet), assured me that I had made the right decision. In the next day or two, I'll post a photo of the boss on the range and I'm betting you'll agree with her team-mates.
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I'm capable of learning when necessary.

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My wife wants to learn to reload as a hedge against my early demise. That's why she only wants to load .40. She has no interest in the broader aspects of reloading.

Most likely she wants to learn HOW to reload but not necessarily actually do it.

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So once she learns do you have to sleep with one eye open?

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So once she learns do you have to sleep with one eye open?

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Nah! She's a LEO.

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Does it come with a carbide sizing die or do the cases need lubed?
Why don't you go on the dillon site and look it up?
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Hey Creo, how about a pic of the sub-gun?
Since you asked.
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Why don't you go on the dillon site and look it up?
Because it sparks conversation on the forum.
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Why don't you go on the dillon site and look it up?
Thanks for your kind response.
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Yeah, with a comment like that, I can see why he's surfing the net and not out on a date.

Sure would make for a lot less bandwidth use though to just have one thread of contact numbers...
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Colorado4Wheel has done lots of the heavy lifting in the stickies at the top of the Reloading Forum. Here's suppliers.
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1105101

I've been doing most of my reading in those threads.

Thanks Colorado4Wheel!

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