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Old 09-03-2013, 17:31   #251
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You guys want to talk about unfair? My friend just bought a new Polaris RZR and they wouldn't let him leave with the thing unless he registered it with the DMV. And of course it's illegal to drive them on the road here.

Just another governmnet scam. Typical NY. You know, NY is one of only two states that charges you sales tax on the full price of a car when you lease it instead of just the lease payments you make.

Freaking NY. Can't wait to leave this place.
Just tell him to buy the full cab and a smart car badge.
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Old 09-03-2013, 17:35   #252
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Just tell him to buy the full cab and a smart car badge.

Ha, police would know in a second it was fake. The RZR would be way bigger than the Smart car lol.
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Old 09-03-2013, 17:42   #253
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You guys want to talk about unfair?
No. Let me tell you about unfair...

What is unfair is that I am exposed to grotesque, obscene, pornographic displays in public by guys riding bikes...

As an example:

http://themountaincabin.files.wordpr.../08/bikers.jpg
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Old 09-03-2013, 17:44   #254
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No. Let me tell you about unfair...

What is unfair is that I am exposed to grotesque, obscene, pornographic displays in public by guys riding bikes...

As an example:

http://themountaincabin.files.wordpr.../08/bikers.jpg

You enjoyed it enough to take a picture......

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Old 09-03-2013, 18:20   #255
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You enjoyed it enough to take a picture......

Its like a train wreck...
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Old 09-03-2013, 18:32   #256
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3) Cyclists must travel in the gutter. It's much better for them to take the road (i.e. ride in the right hand tire track of cars), and it's very predictable. It's unpredictability that's a hazard not the speed of a narrow bicycle;
If they stayed in the gutter where they belong this thread wouldn't exist.
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Old 09-03-2013, 18:33   #257
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No. Let me tell you about unfair...

What is unfair is that I am exposed to grotesque, obscene, pornographic displays in public by guys riding bikes...

As an example:

http://themountaincabin.files.wordpr.../08/bikers.jpg
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Old 09-03-2013, 18:54   #258
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Some asshat almost hit me yesterday on campus. I'm walking in the cross walk and I look right and see this guy on a bike coming toward me. I make eye contact with him and instead of slowing down he starts to kinda swerve back and forth like he's trying to figure out if I'm going to stop. He finally slowed down a little but I don't think he even realized he was required to yield.
You should have tipped him over as he rode by and said "whoops".
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Old 09-03-2013, 19:01   #259
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Many people claim cyclists don't follow the laws, but have you looked up the applicable laws in your state.

Here in Idaho a cyclist can basically treat a red light as a stop sign and treat a stop sign as a yield. They may also ride two abreast

TITLE 49
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49-720. Stopping -- Turn and stop signals. (1) A person operating a bicycle or human-powered vehicle approaching a stop sign shall slow down and, if required for safety, stop before entering the intersection. After slowing to a reasonable speed or stopping, the person shall yield the right-of-way to any vehicle in the intersection or approaching on another highway so closely as to constitute an immediate hazard during the time the person is moving across or within the intersection or junction of highways, except that a person after slowing to a reasonable speed and yielding the right-of-way if required, may cautiously make a turn or proceed through the intersection without stopping.
(2) A person operating a bicycle or human-powered vehicle approaching a steady red traffic control light shall stop before entering the intersection and shall yield to all other traffic. Once the person has yielded, he may proceed through the steady red light with caution. Provided however, that a person after slowing to a reasonable speed and yielding the right-of-way if required, may cautiously make a right-hand turn. A left-hand turn onto a one-way highway may be made on a red light after stopping and yielding to other traffic.
(3) A person riding a bicycle shall comply with the provisions of section 49-643, Idaho Code.
(4) A signal of intention to turn right or left shall be given during not less than the last one hundred (100) feet traveled by the bicycle before turning, provided that a signal by hand and arm need not be given if the hand is needed in the control or operation of the bicycle

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49-718. Riding two abreast. Persons riding bicycles upon a highway shall not ride more than two (2) abreast except on paths or parts of highways set aside for the exclusive use of bicycles. Persons riding two (2) abreast shall not impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic and, on a laned roadway, shall ride within a single lane.



It's sad that some of your lives are so disrupted by cyclist that you feel justified in assaulting a stranger with your 3 ton vehicle.
The laws in my state are very similar; it looks as if we are moving toward Europe with our bicycle laws.

I lived in Europe for over a decade - I've seen it work; it can work here, but it requires the cooperation of all drivers.
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If I come up behind a group of bikers I'll tap my horn to let them know I'm there. The majority of the time they pull to right and form a single line, I always give them a wide berth. You can tell from their waves they appreciate the consideration.

The problem I have is with bikers that are going balls to the walls the wrong direction on the sidewalk. When I fail to see them I become the ass and receive their wrath.
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The laws in my state are very similar; it looks as if we are moving toward Europe with our bicycle laws.

I lived in Europe for over a decade - I've seen it work; it can work here, but it requires the cooperation of all drivers.

Honestly, this isn't Europe.


It won't work here, anymore than the driving laws from Europe would.
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Honestly, this isn't Europe.


It won't work here, anymore than the driving laws from Europe would.
Psstt.. i hate to tell you, but most of the laws (95%) are the same...people just follow them in Europe....
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Psstt.. i hate to tell you, but most of the laws (95%) are the same...people just follow them in Europe....

And that, plus the other 5% of the laws, is why it will never work here.


Even though its more like 40% of the laws.
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Want to see a horror movie? Go to any Asian country and watch the bike riders there.
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The laws in my state are very similar; it looks as if we are moving toward Europe with our bicycle laws.

I lived in Europe for over a decade - I've seen it work; it can work here, but it requires the cooperation of all drivers.
It could work here if we had the will. I live 4 miles from a bus stop. I could ride 4 miles, take a bus downtown, and ride wherever I want to go. I don't because I would have to ride down a crowded four lane road with no shoulders to get to the bus stop. Instead of riding, I drive to one of the most crowded intersections in the city to catch the bus.

A bicycle takes much less room than a bicycle and a bicycle path requires less pavement because it doesn't have to bear as much weight. The people you see griping about bicyclers here are the same ones who will gripe about building functional bike lanes. They will say people won't ride bikes. Their attitude is essentially, screw everybody who's not like me. Consequently, we spend more money to build streets that will carry 18 wheelers,even though the primary users are single passenger vehicles, when we could build a bike lane for less that would accommodate more people.
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And that, plus the other 5% of the laws, is why it will never work here.


Even though its more like 40% of the laws.
Most of the European laws would work here if we weren't mentally and emotionally stuck in 1955. If we ever were the only country in the world that knew how to do anything, we're not now.
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Most of the European laws would work here if we weren't mentally and emotionally stuck in 1955. If we ever were the only country in the world that knew how to do anything, we're not now.
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And that, plus the other 5% of the laws, is why it will never work here.


Even though its more like 40% of the laws.
Which laws are so different? The only ones I can really think of between here and Germany are speed limit laws. Pretty much everything else is almost the same. Some of the signs are different, but the laws are the same.
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I've seen groups of them go through an intersection while one of them stopped in the middle of it and held up his hand to stop traffic . WTFO ? Arrogant bastards .
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I've seen groups of them go through an intersection while one of them stopped in the middle of it and held up his hand to stop traffic . WTFO ? Arrogant bastards .
I still say we should just push them over!!
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Arguing that you should be able to use the road on a bike because you pay road taxes on your car is retarded. Should I be allowed to drive my atv on the road because I own a truck?
The response to his statement was he was paying taxes and bicyclist were not. The taxes or the lack thereof is not what allows a person to ride on the street, it is the local/state laws that allow it.

As to your ATV, if your state says that is the way, then so be it. However, in my state, you can ride your ATV on the street with or without a another vehicle being owned...as long as it is licensed and carries liability insurance. Here, they are considered a motorized vehicle; therefore, they have to meet those guidelines for 'motorized' vehicles to be driven regularly on the public roads.

Hope that helps on any confusion.



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It could work here if we had the will. I live 4 miles from a bus stop. I could ride 4 miles, take a bus downtown, and ride wherever I want to go. I don't because I would have to ride down a crowded four lane road with no shoulders to get to the bus stop. Instead of riding, I drive to one of the most crowded intersections in the city to catch the bus.

A bicycle takes much less room than a bicycle and a bicycle path requires less pavement because it doesn't have to bear as much weight. The people you see griping about bicyclers here are the same ones who will gripe about building functional bike lanes. They will say people won't ride bikes. Their attitude is essentially, screw everybody who's not like me. Consequently, we spend more money to build streets that will carry 18 wheelers,even though the primary users are single passenger vehicles, when we could build a bike lane for less that would accommodate more people.

I would love actual good bike lanes. Ones that made it so cars couldn't go into said bike lanes, and also made it so bikes can just enter and exit it anywhere they felt they wanted to.
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I would love actual good bike lanes. Ones that made it so cars couldn't go into said bike lanes, and also made it so bikes can just enter and exit it anywhere they felt they wanted to.
Very easy. Place a tax on bicycles that funds the construction of said lanes.

If bicyclists offer to fully fund the construction, I suspect most government entities would approve the building of then bike lanes.
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