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Old 09-06-2013, 14:53   #1
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How cool would it be to see this in person.




(Not sure why the video is starting in the middle, but watch if from the start for full WWI effect!)

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Old 09-06-2013, 15:20   #2
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You can.

Rhinebeck Aerodrome

http://www.hvmag.com/Hudson-Valley-M...eck-Aerodrome/

http://www.oldrhinebeck.org/



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From what I understand, those planes were incredibly difficult to fly...
First, they flew with crude carbs that lacked throttles. Speed was controlled by cutting the spark just long enough to slow down but to not stall the engine.
Second, most used the Gnome style rotary engine where the crankcase rotated around a fixed crank/piston assy. There was so much axis torque that only the best pilots could successfully leave the ground, no less maintain controlled flight.
Third, they used total-loss lube systems of highly toxic castor oil. If crashing or enemy action didn't kill you, getting covered in that crap each flight did.

I can't for the life of me remember the name of the book, but there's a fascinating work either written by or about Georges Nussingere (sic?) on this topic. HH
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Old 09-06-2013, 20:51   #4
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You can.

Rhinebeck Aerodrome
Sadly, Cole Palen died earlier last decade in retirement in FL.

I met him in the early to mid 1970's and spent the day there with family…was in the 10-15yr old range. Asked a lot of questions, watched the air show they staged along with the pretend crash over the hill, complete with smoke and fireball.
Great museum. I understand it is still operation and they still do occasional shows. Some of the classics are NOT reproductions but originals. I think some of them were actual captures at the end of WW1 and made it to a warehouse on Long Island. Palen saw them as they were about to demolish the place and put a bid at auction in competition with the Smithsonian and won half a dozen or so. Crated em up on a truck and took em home to Rhinebeck. Restore and fly was the job. Bing foo for the website, worth some surfing.

As I recall he did fly them with castor oil and looked it when he got out of the cockpit, filthy black around his goggles. It was a great summer day.
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Old 09-06-2013, 21:03   #5
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As I recall he did fly them with castor oil and looked it when he got out of the cockpit, filthy black around his goggles. It was a great summer day.
The reason why WWI pilots wore such long scarves was to wipe their goggles. You can tell a period photo as either pre-flight or post-flight by whether the pilot had his scarf showing or tucked under his tunic. Pre-flight: tucked in and ready to use to wipe goggles. Post-flight: out and expended from wiping goggles. Because the life expectancy(sp?) of a fighter pilot was was so short, post-flight photos are much, much more rare. HH
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Old 09-06-2013, 21:07   #6
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I've always thought the triplanes were just beautiful creations, and it's great to see some of them still flying to this day.
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Old 09-07-2013, 06:14   #7
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Concerning the total loss lubrication system using castor oil... my understanding is that breathing the stuff has the same effect on the human body as drinking it. So if you made it home safely from a mission in which the enemy hadn't kicked the s**t out of you... well, use your imagination.
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I recall reading that the early aerodromes (airports) were big circles. Permitted taking off and landing into the wind.
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