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Old 08-27-2013, 14:31   #1
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Military folks: What is "Urban Decentralization Training?"

As a LEO, I am notified by certain military units when they will be conducting this training in my area and how they / I should act if we should come into contact with each other.

I'm not exactly sure what it is, so I won't divulge any further.

For those who know, what exactly is it that they are doing?

If it isn't something that should be discussed openly, PM me instead of posting here.

I think that I have a basic idea of what it is, but I'm still curious.

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Old 08-27-2013, 14:38   #2
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Is it evacuation in case of widespread natural disaster? Like an earthquake, flood, NBC release?
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Is it evacuation in case of widespread natural disaster? Like an earthquake, flood, NBC release?
Could be . . . . but I don't think so.

Without saying too much, what they are doing seems more intelligence based than what you guys are envisioning. They aren't in any military vehicles or dressed in military clothing.
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Old 08-27-2013, 15:21   #6
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Planning routes to the FEMA camps?
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Given that the only Google response with that exact phrase is this GlockTalk thread I think you were NOT supposed to talk about it.

They will now show up at your door and decentralize your body parts in an urban area.
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The first rule of Urban Decentralization Training:

1. Don't talk about Urban Decentralization Training
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Old 08-27-2013, 15:32   #9
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its developing ways to get those selected ones on the trains heading for the "camps".
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Sounds like they want to evacuate from the city to me. For natural disaster, man-made disaster, or good old fashion roundup...
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Could be . . . . but I don't think so.

Without saying too much, what they are doing seems more intelligence based than what you guys are envisioning. They aren't in any military vehicles or dressed in military clothing.
As I understand it, in war, this would allow them to be treated/shot as spies instead being treated as prisoners of war if captured.

Sounds like training to infiltrate (blend in to) an urban area to gather knowledge of insurrectionists or to eliminate them.
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Could be . . . . but I don't think so.

Without saying too much, what they are doing seems more intelligence based than what you guys are envisioning. They aren't in any military vehicles or dressed in military clothing.
Don't read too much into it. I know that's going to get all the "no! That's what they WANT you to think!" crowd on my ass, but the way most military plans for contingencies is by sitting around tables and gaming them out. You don't think we rehearsed for a first-strike attack from the Soviet Union by running around in the streets in full MOPP gear pretending nukes were falling, do you? But at the same time, you know command staff had planned all of that out.

What it sounds like you're talking about is a mass-casualty event, like 9/11 or even Boston had it gone off as it seems was planned. They need to figure out how to handle a big deal like, say, an attack in downtown Atlanta that sends people fleeing in all directions (urban decentralization). They let LEO know because they might end up doing the mass-cas drills - folks in the park pretending to be wounded, etc - and they don't want law enforcement officers (patrol cops) showing up and wondering WTF is going on. Most of the planning would be behind closed doors, and likely would include local EMA and LEO higher-ups so that coordination would happen.

I've never heard the term before, but I do know a little something about the way the Big Green Machine works, and this is what it sounds like is going on, in my non-expert opinion.
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Old 08-27-2013, 16:24   #13
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There are lots of things that our military may do in urban areas from full scale war to dealing with disasters to rebuilding and search and rescue. It would not shock me that whatever it is, it ends up less dramatic than what it seems here.
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Urban decentralization as defined online seems to be another name for "urban sprawl."

Maybe they want to design the next generation of MOUT cities like the 'burbs instead of like Brooklyn.
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Planning routes to the FEMA camps?
I don't trust the government any more than the next guy and agree, FEMA is largely a waste of money.

That said, one of the "FEMA Camps" is right here in my home county. If you google it, it shows up on the map.

I have been over every square inch of it. It is completely incapable of being a "camp." It is a damn training facility.

People have just claimed that everything owned by FEMA is a internment camp.
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Given that the only Google response with that exact phrase is this GlockTalk thread I think you were NOT supposed to talk about it.
That was kind of my thought, lol.
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As I understand it, in war, this would allow them to be treated/shot as spies instead being treated as prisoners of war if captured.

Sounds like training to infiltrate (blend in to) an urban area to gather knowledge of insurrectionists or to eliminate them.
EXACTLY what I was thinking.

I figure it has to do with infiltrating infrastructure and gathering intelligence.
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Don't read too much into it. I know that's going to get all the "no! That's what they WANT you to think!" crowd on my ass, but the way most military plans for contingencies is by sitting around tables and gaming them out. You don't think we rehearsed for a first-strike attack from the Soviet Union by running around in the streets in full MOPP gear pretending nukes were falling, do you? But at the same time, you know command staff had planned all of that out.

What it sounds like you're talking about is a mass-casualty event, like 9/11 or even Boston had it gone off as it seems was planned. They need to figure out how to handle a big deal like, say, an attack in downtown Atlanta that sends people fleeing in all directions (urban decentralization). They let LEO know because they might end up doing the mass-cas drills - folks in the park pretending to be wounded, etc - and they don't want law enforcement officers (patrol cops) showing up and wondering WTF is going on. Most of the planning would be behind closed doors, and likely would include local EMA and LEO higher-ups so that coordination would happen.

I've never heard the term before, but I do know a little something about the way the Big Green Machine works, and this is what it sounds like is going on, in my non-expert opinion.
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As a LEO, I am notified by certain military units when they will be conducting this training in my area and how they / I should act if we should come into contact with each other.

I'm not exactly sure what it is, so I won't divulge any further.

For those who know, what exactly is it that they are doing?

If it isn't something that should be discussed openly, PM me instead of posting here.

I think that I have a basic idea of what it is, but I'm still curious.

Thanks
It's too secret for the Army to tell me, but I'm guessing it has to do with responding to the threat in the race war that guy at Homeland Security is starting. Or, given the current administration, it may have to do with staging units in the cities to sweep out and kill off the non-city people.
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You know you've hit gold when you can Google it with quotes and and self-link to the only hit.
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You know you've hit gold when you can Google it with quotes and and self-link to the only hit.
The really scary thing is how quickly it came up on Google. That means the NSA is having Google actively track us so they don't have to do it in real time.
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I'd lean towards decentralization of military control in a unclear environment. Here's your sector - organize civil services, control points, protection of utilities. defense or offense against the same. How would you handle it if communication failed?
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Isn't it when they fly helicopters in cities, at night, shooting blanks like they're going out of style?

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