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Old 08-27-2013, 18:33   #101
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You seem to be dodging questions very poorly. The physical jurisdiction is, pretty obviously, Boston and the law that applies is, concurrently, federal/constitutional, state and department policy, the same as with every action the police take, every day. It's not that hard - I believe he asked you what laws or policies were violated, 4th Amendment, state use of force statutes, etc.
See the post above yours. I can only type so fast guy.
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Old 08-27-2013, 18:47   #102
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30 Minute Warning

I've been on GT all day. Got an appointment with hookers and blow later, so don't spaz out if I can't respond to later questions til tomorrow. So if you got something that needs answering, now is the time.
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Old 08-27-2013, 18:49   #103
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See the post above yours. I can only type so fast guy.
So your answer was, more or less, "I don't know what I'm talking about, but 'POLICE BAD'"?
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Old 08-27-2013, 18:53   #104
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So your answer was, more or less, "I don't know what I'm talking about, but 'POLICE BAD'"?
No B. And as far as "policy", how about knowing what your backstop is when shooting?
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Old 08-27-2013, 18:54   #105
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My cousin has a friend who's on some joint red cross relief taskforce up that way and was there after the manhunt. What I found interesting is that of the dozens of homeowners who were led out of their houses at gunpoint, four are still unaccounted for. Their families inquired and the local police just made out missing person reports.

I have no personal knowledge if any of this is true. But I don't see why it shouldn't be.
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Old 08-27-2013, 18:55   #106
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http://www.cityofboston.gov/images_d..._tcm3-9585.pdf

Here's a nice nugget:

"Its members are thereby bound to refrain
from any use of force that unnecessarily tends to administer punishment at the hands of a
police officer. The responsibility for punishment of criminal offenders rests solely with
duly constituted courts of law and penal institutions and is by no means extended to the police."

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Old 08-27-2013, 18:58   #107
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Thought you were "well versed"?

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Didn't the whole sheepdog thing actually start right here on Glock Talk? A bunch of wannabees bought a bunch of T-shirts and took an oath to defend those who won't defend themselves?
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Old 08-27-2013, 18:59   #108
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My cousin has a friend who's on some joint red cross relief taskforce up that way and was there after the manhunt. What I found interesting is that of the dozens of homeowners who were led out of their houses at gunpoint, four are still unaccounted for. Their families inquired and the local police just made out missing person reports.

I have no personal knowledge if any of this is true. But I don't see why it shouldn't be.
I hope you are just messing with me. That is kinda scary.
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Old 08-27-2013, 19:00   #109
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Thought you were "well versed"?

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I am in the escalation of force, you know, the words I used.

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Old 08-27-2013, 19:02   #110
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http://www.cityofboston.gov/images_d..._tcm3-9585.pdf

Here's a nice nugget:

"Its members are thereby bound to refrain
from any use of force that unnecessarily tends to administer punishment at the hands of a
police officer. The responsibility for punishment of criminal offenders rests solely with
duly constituted courts of law and penal institutions and is by no means extended to the police."
Based on your sig line, I suspect those two killer brothers are your heros.
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Old 08-27-2013, 19:02   #111
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Not in Police Use of Deadly Force, correct?

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Didn't the whole sheepdog thing actually start right here on Glock Talk? A bunch of wannabees bought a bunch of T-shirts and took an oath to defend those who won't defend themselves?
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Old 08-27-2013, 19:04   #112
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I hope you are just messing with me. That is kinda scary.
I.

Am.

Not.

Missing persons police reports are public records.
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Old 08-27-2013, 19:05   #113
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Based on your sig line, I suspect those two killer brothers are your heros.
Where do you get that from? You are completely wrong.
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Old 08-27-2013, 19:06   #114
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Nope. But I just read the BPD guidance on it, so I probably have the same grasp as you.
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Old 08-27-2013, 19:09   #115
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5 pages , ok i got the popcorn .

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Old 08-27-2013, 19:10   #116
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Keep it clean and we can continue the conversation.

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Old 08-27-2013, 19:11   #117
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Is that why they fired into the boat over 100 times when the suspect was unarmed? To set off his bombs?
Oh, my heart bleeds for the poor little "innocent" guy.
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Old 08-27-2013, 19:15   #118
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Nope. But I just read the BPD guidance on it, so I probably have the same grasp as you.
The arrogance of ignorance never fails to deliver.

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Originally Posted by Rooster Rugburn:
Didn't the whole sheepdog thing actually start right here on Glock Talk? A bunch of wannabees bought a bunch of T-shirts and took an oath to defend those who won't defend themselves?
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Old 08-27-2013, 19:19   #119
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Old 08-27-2013, 19:26   #120
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1st, let me say: "N B 4 Lock".

Second, I would warn the OP, or anyone if they care, I recently garnered my only infraction for posting a thread here in Okie Corral which should have been elsewhere, apparently. Relevant stickie below, for your convenience.

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show....php?t=1469976
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Old 08-27-2013, 19:31   #121
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Night little buddy. Be back tomorrow!
Good choice on your part.
Let the thread lock save you from further exposure/embarrassment.

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Didn't the whole sheepdog thing actually start right here on Glock Talk? A bunch of wannabees bought a bunch of T-shirts and took an oath to defend those who won't defend themselves?
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Old 08-27-2013, 19:34   #122
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How many of these "many" people felt their rights were violated have filed complaints and/or law suits?

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The lawsuits (if any) may come later. Normally there is a two year statute of limitations on filing a lawsuit. Often they get filed right before that. It gives them more time to identify more people to sue.
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1st, let me say: "N B 4 Lock".

Second, I would warn the OP, or anyone if they care, I recently garnered my only infraction for posting a thread here in Okie Corral which should have been elsewhere, apparently. Relevant stickie below, for your convenience.

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show....php?t=1469976
the thread is 5 pages now , if you were gonna lock it why wait til now ?? lock on post one unless some leo got butt hurt and filed complaint .
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Old 08-27-2013, 19:55   #124
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the thread is 5 pages now , if you were gonna lock it why wait til now ?? lock on post one unless some leo got butt hurt and filed complaint .
That's assuming the mods are on duty 24/7 and read each and every post in real time.

Or in this case I suspect some non-leo is butthurt and had gone to file a complaint, on the pretext he's retiring for the night. Ash, be sure to tuck him in!
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the thread is 5 pages now , if you were gonna lock it why wait til now ?? lock on post one unless some leo got butt hurt and filed complaint .

You could be right, I'm no expert, by any stretch. I got ding'd for posting something, thought it might not be generally known that this was being enforced. If info isn't helpful, I apologize.
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