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Old 09-09-2013, 23:12   #1
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Graduate to Master prize order?

Anyone know how GSSF chooses which division a person wins their third pistol when they have two wins in a previous match, then place first in two divisions in a more recent match? One of them will graduate the competitor to Master, but which one, is there a procedure they go by?
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Old 09-09-2013, 23:47   #2
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Anyone know how GSSF chooses which division a person wins their third pistol when they have two wins in a previous match, then place first in two divisions in a more recent match? One of them will graduate the competitor to Master, but which one, is there a procedure they go by?
190.120 Master Class Firearms Award Distribution.
In order to “share the wealth” of firearms
awards among our Master class competitors, any
one individual Master-class competitor may win
one (1), but only one, “Performance” firearm award
per GSSF match. If the Master-rated competitor is
the top finisher in more than one division, he or she
will received the firearm awarded under one of the
divisions and the next available cash award if any
in the other division(s). Generally, the “priority” order
of such firearms awards will be “MatchMeister”,
then “MasterStock”, then “Unlimited”, then equally
“Competition or Subcompact or Heavy Metal” or
“MajorSub” (Upgraded awards). “Random” firearms
awards are not subject to this rule.

This actually happened to me at a match when I placed first in 3 or 4 Divisions while I was an Amateur with one gun win already (on that Friday). Halfway through the weekend match I effectively became a Master and the rules changed for me. None of this was actually known until the software ran the finals and the prizes a month later.

Since a person who wins their 3rd gun immediately becomes a Master, they should immediately be under this "priority" rule. If the wins are in 'equal' Divisions then I don't know how they would do it. Perhaps some complex algorythm exists in the scoring software - or maybe Cindy says "eeny, meeny, miny, moe"...

ETA: In priority-order for Amateurs, one of the Amateur Divisions would be higest priority - AmCiv or Guardian.

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Old 09-09-2013, 23:52   #3
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Anyone know how GSSF chooses which division a person wins their third pistol when they have two wins in a previous match, then place first in two divisions in a more recent match? One of them will graduate the competitor to Master, but which one, is there a procedure they go by?
BTW, why does it matter? This competitor should get their third gun win as an Amateur, then the second gun as their allowed 1 gun/match as a Master - IF there are enough Master shooters in that second Division.
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Old 09-10-2013, 05:32   #4
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I always thought it was thwir entry number order.
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BTW, why does it matter? This competitor should get their third gun win as an Amateur, then the second gun as their allowed 1 gun/match as a Master - IF there are enough Master shooters in that second Division.
I agree, as long as they beat the other masters in that second division... I should have elaborated more. I may be in the position that I posted about and depending on which category they award him the amateur win, I could walk away with an amateur win in the other category, but it sounds like those decisions happen behind the curtain. I will keep my fingers crossed and see what happens.
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Old 09-10-2013, 10:21   #6
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FWIW.

At the recend Marietta, Ohio match, a guy won his 3rd Amateur gun in "Guardian", and was also awarded the Master Gun in Subcompact.

Thus, going home with two guns from the same match; one Amateur, one Master.
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I always thought it was thwir entry number order.
Hmmm... I will have to check the Finals for that match where I placed 1st in multiple Divisions to see if that entered into it.

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FWIW.

At the recend Marietta, Ohio match, a guy won his 3rd Amateur gun in "Guardian", and was also awarded the Master Gun in Subcompact.

Thus, going home with two guns from the same match; one Amateur, one Master.
...which is exactly happened with me - but 2 Amateur guns, 1 Master gun, and a $100 1st place because of not enough Masters shooting a Division as a Master OR because there is a 3 gun limit per match, perhaps. It was all very mysterious and I entrusted the results to the IT Gods who developed the scoring software.
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Old 09-10-2013, 14:47   #8
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I won all 3 amateur division at a match after already having 2 wins. My third gun award was in AmCiv, 2nd place in Sub and Comp got bumped to a gun award and I got a check along with a check for UL.
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