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Old 07-18-2013, 12:40   #1
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Ahhh Seattle . . .

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Steinbrueck said the key is to shift from a paramilitary-style of training at the state academy toward one of de-escalation and empathy. Recruits who come into training with military backgrounds almost have to be reprogrammed from that kind of training, he said.

"Unfortunately, I think the statewide academy has reinforced a militaristic approach," Steinbrueck said.
Sigh . . .

Coded language for "If you are former military, you are not good for us"?
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Old 07-18-2013, 13:28   #2
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Steinbrueck is patently wrong. Due to the vagaries of combat and the fog of war, soldiers have to be leaders.

He believes that police officers have the luxury of time to lead EST-style encounter groups and allowing citizens to emote, with the delusional belief that this will defuse violent situations.

Based on what I could find on a cursory search, he has never been a police officer, not a psychiatrist, and has zero experience in dynamic high risk conflict resolution. He does appear to experience an excessive amount of false empathy, likely due to 'buy in' of socialist political beliefs and his personal wish to experience a monthly flow.
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Old 07-18-2013, 14:14   #3
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Steinbrueck is patently wrong. Due to the vagaries of combat and the fog of war, soldiers have to be leaders.

He believes that police officers have the luxury of time to lead EST-style encounter groups and allowing citizens to emote, with the delusional belief that this will defuse violent situations.

Based on what I could find on a cursory search, he has never been a police officer, not a psychiatrist, and has zero experience in dynamic high risk conflict resolution. He does appear to experience an excessive amount of false empathy, likely due to 'buy in' of socialist political beliefs and his personal wish to experience a monthly flow.
So you're saying he should be appointed Chief any moment now?

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Old 07-18-2013, 14:50   #4
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Seattle WA and Portland OR want to be San Francisco when they grow up.
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Old 07-18-2013, 15:07   #5
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So you're saying he should be appointed Chief any moment now?

If one's ideal chief is Heather Fong, yes.
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Old 07-18-2013, 15:09   #6
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Seattle WA and Portland OR want to be San Francisco when they grow up.

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Old 07-18-2013, 17:21   #7
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What is interesting is that Seattle tried to run their own academy about a decade ago. It was costly and difficult to run even when they had the staffing to do so. They have fewer officers now than then. Where do these idiots think the instructor cadre will come from? Also, the academy has to be certified by the the CJTC/state so officers can get their state certification to be a peace officer.

I don't believe that the city has the location to run the academy, unless they take over the bingo hall on the SPAA on the gun range. Which is not in Seattle. And only 15 minutes from the state academy in Burien.

I love my Seattle brothers and sisters. Great folks at the peer level. It's a shame they are led by a foolish council and mayor.
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Old 07-18-2013, 19:44   #8
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Man some are trying to push that mess here.

I'm VERY grateful for the paramilitary training I had. Shoot I wish my TAC officers could have pushed us harder. The stress inoculation kept me from making a horrible mistake.

I've seen the "smart not strong" officers some academies put out. I'm not too impressed w/them and their mentalities.


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Sigh . . .

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"Steinbrueck said the key is to shift from a paramilitary-style of training at the state academy toward one of de-escalation and empathy. Recruits who come into training with military backgrounds almost have to be reprogrammed from that kind of training, he said."

Yeah, they need to be social workers. Crime fighters is so 80's.
I mean why even give them guns. Send them out with pen and paper to note their feelings and they could hand out food stamps too. Community Oriented Policing. Hugs for everyone.
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Everybody in the PD should have that guy's number on speed dial. The next time there is a six-foot dude whacked on PCP swinging a sword in the middle of the street, they can call Mr. "Hugs not Slugs" over to demonstrate how to "empathy" him into custody.
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Old 07-18-2013, 22:29   #12
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That's funny vet! Just saw that movie on the TV this last weekend.

Speaking of sword wielding subjects in Seattle . . .

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+1 Sounds about right
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That's funny vet! Just saw that movie on the TV this last weekend.

Speaking of sword wielding subjects in Seattle . . .

MAN WITH SAMURAI SWORD STANDOFF! - YouTube
Half a million square feet of fishing net a couple of miles away, and they spend the better part of the day trying to talk a mental patient out of going mental. (Insert Almost Live, Pike or Pine skit here)

I forget, was Stamper the Supreme High Commander of that most skillfully executed action--gotta admit, pinning him with the ladder was a good idea--or was Girlycowski in charge?

I find it inspiring that a police chief who had his Glock stolen out of his cruiser got promoted to be our nation's Drug Czar under Comrade Zero. (Or should I spell it Tsar in honor of the "Boston Stong" cover-boy?)



LMAO it was Stamper... He panders for HuffPole these days: http://normstamper.com/

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Seattle WA and Portland OR want to be San Francisco when they grow up.
So which neighboring city gets to be Oakland? Tacoma or Everett?
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So which neighboring city gets to be Oakland? Tacoma or Everett?
I don't know about Seattle, but Portland has Vancouver WA. right across the Columbia and it makes a fine stand-in for Oakland.
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I don't know about Seattle, but Portland has Vancouver WA. right across the Columbia and it makes a fine stand-in for Oakland.
I lived in Vancouver a couple years ago. You are absolutely right on that one.
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What about Gresham AKA Greshamphetamine?
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What about Gresham AKA Greshamphetamine?
That was #2on my list but Wilsonville was closing in on it.

Of course Portland proper has it's neighborhoods that would do like Kenton and St, Johns.
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